shootingbuff
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I was only at Hinton a short time. A few others might have a better view. It seemed though that the attendance before I had to travel for 3-4 matches beginning 2011 had increased and we were running anywhere from 12 -20 shooters Everyone came from somewhere else like the OKC area and a handful up from Lawton.
I see the biggest down side to starting IDPA is two fold. Mostly that IPSC is established and that is what is discussed and then comments like tac loads etc turn into bashing.. So folks without knowing jack carry on talking jack and not wanting to try it. The second is there are a lot of matches already. Before I moved I had the luxury of shooting both days of every weekend and sometimes during the week, I worked 8 days a week (jobs overlaped on Sat and Mon) and ran matches on the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Sats. It got to where I only shot our multi gun matches a couple times a year from burnout. I would shoot IPSC a couple times a yr because some of those guys would shoot our matches, especially the multigun. In saying you had to pick the matches you wanted to shoot, so I had no time to run and gun. It is great fun, but my goals were defensive so I shot IDPA and TSA. Really wish TSA would had took off. It is a nice blend of IDPA and IPSC. What I saw was folks that were getting started shooting competition, folks with a defensive mindset, older shooters mobility challenged (some of the best shooters) and folks that didn't want to feel like they had to have a bunch of upgrades and those wanting to feel competitive with their carry gear.
IDPA I feel is harder with the exception for the longest shots in IPSC. You have to clear a cover garment, you have to plan the stage and stay behind cover and you have less mag capacity to make up for poor shots or major vs minor, scoring is not based on the stage winner but the actual score (real feedback) as is the classifier. Reloads like the draw one has to clear a cover garment and of course something that resembles a basic holster with a nod to production. It was the principal of basic gear that got production rolling.
Production is not IDPA nor is David's matches - not by far. As far as the best shooters they go where the money is. I had not shot hardly in a long while and not since Feb of 2011 yet when I went and shot Nov and Dec I did alright and the scores show that, but I was sloppy and slow from no practice. Again I did ok AND I was using an IWB holster w/ cover garment. So those that may think IDPA shooters can not get it done, well I know a few that are very good and would hold their own with pistols. Why did I bring that up because it seems folks are embarrassed or afraid to shoot IDPA because others may rag them for it. Heck maybe lose out on their attendance. That is why we had made a gentleman's pack about scheduling.
I do believe if folks would stop ragging on IDPA, more would want to ask about it and shoot it. The few matches I have left will be shotgun or multigun so I am not trying to get a club to shoot IDPA. Just throwing out a bunch of thoughts. Seems this sight is a great place to talk multigun and IPSC or even calenders/booth babes etc, but IDPA gets shunned. Might mean something.
I would hope everyone on this board wants to promote the shooting industry. Not having an IDPA club/match hurts the shooting industry and could keep a group of folks from shooting. Your words and comments do impact others, especially those that are thought to be the big dogs. Want to promote the industry setup 2-3 IDPA matches to get a feel if there is an audience for it then turn it over to a range, organization, or one who wants to run with it. Hell someone may even like it though you wouldn't have to admit it and lose your cool status amongst your peers.
:sorry:
Now lets talk multigun where I have to listen :13:
I see the biggest down side to starting IDPA is two fold. Mostly that IPSC is established and that is what is discussed and then comments like tac loads etc turn into bashing.. So folks without knowing jack carry on talking jack and not wanting to try it. The second is there are a lot of matches already. Before I moved I had the luxury of shooting both days of every weekend and sometimes during the week, I worked 8 days a week (jobs overlaped on Sat and Mon) and ran matches on the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Sats. It got to where I only shot our multi gun matches a couple times a year from burnout. I would shoot IPSC a couple times a yr because some of those guys would shoot our matches, especially the multigun. In saying you had to pick the matches you wanted to shoot, so I had no time to run and gun. It is great fun, but my goals were defensive so I shot IDPA and TSA. Really wish TSA would had took off. It is a nice blend of IDPA and IPSC. What I saw was folks that were getting started shooting competition, folks with a defensive mindset, older shooters mobility challenged (some of the best shooters) and folks that didn't want to feel like they had to have a bunch of upgrades and those wanting to feel competitive with their carry gear.
IDPA I feel is harder with the exception for the longest shots in IPSC. You have to clear a cover garment, you have to plan the stage and stay behind cover and you have less mag capacity to make up for poor shots or major vs minor, scoring is not based on the stage winner but the actual score (real feedback) as is the classifier. Reloads like the draw one has to clear a cover garment and of course something that resembles a basic holster with a nod to production. It was the principal of basic gear that got production rolling.
Production is not IDPA nor is David's matches - not by far. As far as the best shooters they go where the money is. I had not shot hardly in a long while and not since Feb of 2011 yet when I went and shot Nov and Dec I did alright and the scores show that, but I was sloppy and slow from no practice. Again I did ok AND I was using an IWB holster w/ cover garment. So those that may think IDPA shooters can not get it done, well I know a few that are very good and would hold their own with pistols. Why did I bring that up because it seems folks are embarrassed or afraid to shoot IDPA because others may rag them for it. Heck maybe lose out on their attendance. That is why we had made a gentleman's pack about scheduling.
I do believe if folks would stop ragging on IDPA, more would want to ask about it and shoot it. The few matches I have left will be shotgun or multigun so I am not trying to get a club to shoot IDPA. Just throwing out a bunch of thoughts. Seems this sight is a great place to talk multigun and IPSC or even calenders/booth babes etc, but IDPA gets shunned. Might mean something.
I would hope everyone on this board wants to promote the shooting industry. Not having an IDPA club/match hurts the shooting industry and could keep a group of folks from shooting. Your words and comments do impact others, especially those that are thought to be the big dogs. Want to promote the industry setup 2-3 IDPA matches to get a feel if there is an audience for it then turn it over to a range, organization, or one who wants to run with it. Hell someone may even like it though you wouldn't have to admit it and lose your cool status amongst your peers.
:sorry:
Now lets talk multigun where I have to listen :13: