And different that my friend wanting to borrow primers from me, my terms were not fair and way over kill on my side I will admit and I did advise him not to do it, we shall see again just glad we prepared well, of our shooting group we have only 4 or so that took notice and prepared for it well it was very plain it was coming and would happen now those wish to vilify us due to taking action on this that did not listen nor pay attention to what was coming and it did. Now we are the bad guys to them in our group. Yet we told them to do it, go figure there. We bought at about $135 total a case of 5000, now seeing that for 1000 and more paid on Gun Broker. Not selling any just shooting them. All 4 of us have been contacted by this person I mentioned trying to get best deal all of pre discussed it and have the same terms exactly.