shootingbuff
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This is funny. We agree on the load, we agree if it is stout enough to stop a threat it is going to over penetrate, we agree on angles/lanes.
Take the meth scenario: a load of anything do you think is going to make adiffernce? OSS is well., check my sig block. If one is determined it is going to take more than one shot. A birdshot which is not what I would use would give most a thought and if not a load of 4B or OOB or whatever is next up. So, even in the meth scenario it is going to take multiple hits.
If one has to protect others they have to get there to protect them. Moving with a SG isn’t the best thing to do in a house or moving at all if there is the possibility of someone in the house. Here comes the plan. yet the plan isn't any good if you never know the BG is in the house. One should do what they can to deter one from picking your house. One must have an early warning system. One especially if there are others that need protecting have to have a plan on how to warn, get to and protect them.
All this macho BS about maybe birdshot is great for levity, but it is not productive to everything that needs to be considered before one may have to pull the trigger. Again the meth scenario if they are tweaked it wont matter what you hit them with. If they are not whacked knowing they have someone with a firearm in a position to defend access into whatever room it is may be the turning point. If not a loud boom should enlighten them even if it is a complete miss or again have a hvr load in the tube.
The thought of moving with a SG through the house especially with one untrained is ludicrous. One needs to hole up and if they have to move they need the SG already staged and a handgun to move with. Again this doesn't mean anything if you never know they are in the house.
Though if one is worried about over penetration (should read errant pellets passing through walls) then fortify the walls or use less lethal load.
Effin A isn't about agreeing with anyone. It is having thought everything through, practiced the plan, getting familar with the firearms and playing what if with each other and testing each person in the house and adapting/modifying the plan and firearms as new information comes in.
Urging someone to use a load that will penetrate walls if there are other family in the house is not my idea of a first choice but by skippy it will be followed with something a bit stouter and their plan better be practiced and work
Now all this for the sake of the OP isn't worth anything if he doesn't have others in the house.
Listen, think, and don't regurgitate.
Take the meth scenario: a load of anything do you think is going to make adiffernce? OSS is well., check my sig block. If one is determined it is going to take more than one shot. A birdshot which is not what I would use would give most a thought and if not a load of 4B or OOB or whatever is next up. So, even in the meth scenario it is going to take multiple hits.
If one has to protect others they have to get there to protect them. Moving with a SG isn’t the best thing to do in a house or moving at all if there is the possibility of someone in the house. Here comes the plan. yet the plan isn't any good if you never know the BG is in the house. One should do what they can to deter one from picking your house. One must have an early warning system. One especially if there are others that need protecting have to have a plan on how to warn, get to and protect them.
All this macho BS about maybe birdshot is great for levity, but it is not productive to everything that needs to be considered before one may have to pull the trigger. Again the meth scenario if they are tweaked it wont matter what you hit them with. If they are not whacked knowing they have someone with a firearm in a position to defend access into whatever room it is may be the turning point. If not a loud boom should enlighten them even if it is a complete miss or again have a hvr load in the tube.
The thought of moving with a SG through the house especially with one untrained is ludicrous. One needs to hole up and if they have to move they need the SG already staged and a handgun to move with. Again this doesn't mean anything if you never know they are in the house.
Though if one is worried about over penetration (should read errant pellets passing through walls) then fortify the walls or use less lethal load.
Effin A isn't about agreeing with anyone. It is having thought everything through, practiced the plan, getting familar with the firearms and playing what if with each other and testing each person in the house and adapting/modifying the plan and firearms as new information comes in.
Urging someone to use a load that will penetrate walls if there are other family in the house is not my idea of a first choice but by skippy it will be followed with something a bit stouter and their plan better be practiced and work
Now all this for the sake of the OP isn't worth anything if he doesn't have others in the house.
Listen, think, and don't regurgitate.