The 2013 Assault Weapons Ban Thread

Your mere possession of a firearm is an "assualt on their sensibilities". You are just prattle and do not deserve the protection a firearm can afford, even though the vast majority of those that want to ban guns have armed security at their beck and call. It is not about guns, assualt or otherwise, it is about control and power.
 
well i have to be honest... my Assault rifle did assault numerous no shoots at a 3gun match once, so much white cardboard was flying everywhere, i was so depressed afterwards..
 
benjamin-benjamin said:
well i have to be honest... my Assault rifle did assault numerous no shoots at a 3gun match once, so much white cardboard was flying everywhere, i was so depressed afterwards..

Mind don't assault, mine just seem to insult the no shoots, in fact I think they heckle me too :)
 
"The reason why I'm focusing on that is because (high) magazine capacity has led to the increased lethality and the dangers associated with automatic weapons," the Park Ridge Democrat said.


Dumb ass politicians like this is the reason we have stupid gun laws.
 
Fleche said:
FYI, you can get a lifetime NRA membership for $300 if you have a lifetime member sponsor you. I'm more than willing once mine is processed.(They are 2-3 weeks backlogged)

800-672-3888 and option 3, then give sponsors #, current NRA number (expired, current, or new) and credit card.

As long as I live 10 years it will be worth it ;p
What would the sponsor have to do and how do you go about getting a lifetime membership this way
 
benjamin-benjamin said:
well i have to be honest... my Assault rifle did assault numerous no shoots at a 3gun match once, so much white cardboard was flying everywhere, i was so depressed afterwards..
I heard the FBI Hostage Rescue Team is holding tryouts!
Dustin Cantrell said:
This is insane. If this bill passes, you would no longer be able to purchase semi auto handguns or rifles, or high capacity magazines in Illinois. The Illinois governor has praised the bill.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50350330/ns/local_news-chicago_il/t/ill-senate-committee-passes-gun-restrictions/#.UOWp3m_m7Xc
Southern Illinois to the rescue!
 
Fleche said:
FYI, you can get a lifetime NRA membership for $300 if you have a lifetime member sponsor you. I'm more than willing once mine is processed.(They are 2-3 weeks backlogged)

800-672-3888 and option 3, then give sponsors #, current NRA number (expired, current, or new) and credit card.

As long as I live 10 years it will be worth it ;p
I am currently a 5 year NRA member that would like to take advantage of this lifetime discount if anyone is willing to let me use their name and number. I tried the phone number above and it does not offer an option 3.
 
We discussed compromise earlier. Here is a good place to start .

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/bruce-w-krafft/a-compromise-gun-control-bill-i-can-live-with/

Repeal the Brady Bill and do away with the NICS system entirely. It was supposed to keep felons from getting firearms but has failed miserably. The solution isn’t to “tweak” the cumbersome and expensive background check process. The answer is to get rid of it entirely.
Repeal the Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act limiting ownership of full-auto weapons to those made prior to 1986.
In accordance with the 1968 amendments to the National Firearms Act, there will be a 90-day amnesty registration period every year, from January 1st through April 1st (or February 29th on leap years). The ATF will have 30 days to process any NFA transaction. Failure to complete a transaction in 30 days will result in the refund of all fees to the transferees and issuance of a default registration letter stating that the NFA items in question are legally possessed even if they are not entered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
Any pilot or aircraft crew member who is an honorably discharged veteran or possesses a permit to carry from any state will be authorized to carry a firearm while in the air in any manner they deem fit.
Any schoolteacher, school employee or school volunteer who is an honorably discharged veteran or possesses a permit to carry from any state is authorized to carry a firearm in any school in any manner they deem fit. Any school district which is found in violation of this law shall forfeit all federal funds for a period of 6 months (for a first offense) and not less than 1 year for subsequent offenses.
Repeal the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1990.
Congress shall deem that Article IV Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution (commonly known as the full faith and credit clause) applies to state-issued permits to carry. Any state which fails to honor the permits of any other state shall forfeit all federal funds for a period of 6 months (for a first offense) and not less than 1 year for subsequent offenses.
In accordance with Coffin v. United States a person who is attacked in a place s/he has a right to be and who is not engaged in unlawful activity will have no duty to retreat and will have the right to meet force with force, including deadly force if s/he reasonably believes it is necessary in order to prevent death or great bodily harm to him/herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony and shall be presumed to have acted in self-defense until proven otherwise. Law enforcement may not arrest an individual for using deadly force unless they have probable cause to believe that the use of force was unlawful.
The definition of “sporting purposes” shall include all types of sport and competitive shooting and all “military style” and semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns are hereby deemed suitable for sport shooting.
Any firearm or firearm accessory made by a private individual for their personal use will be beyond the authority of Congress under its constitutional power to regulate commerce among the states.
“High capacity” magazines will be defined as any ammunition feeding device designed to hold more than 150 rounds.
“Armor piercing” bullets will be defined as any round which, when fired from a pistol with a barrel of no more than 4 inches (not including recoil or sound suppressor) can pierce 1 inch of HY-100 steel (or its equivalent) at 200 yards.
Any business will have the right to exclude weapons from their premises and by doing so they accept strict liability for protecting their employees, customers and visitors.
 
Jeff T said:
I am currently a 5 year NRA member that would like to take advantage of this lifetime discount if anyone is willing to let me use their name and number. I tried the phone number above and it does not offer an option 3.
That number should work during normal business hours.

My lifetime went active today. Seems I get 20 years to live:
Type:Regular Annual
Status:Active
Expire Date:1/31/2033

I should be able to sponsor a few, will PM you.
 
WillR said:
We discussed compromise earlier. Here is a good place to start .

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/bruce-w-krafft/a-compromise-gun-control-bill-i-can-live-with/

Repeal the Brady Bill and do away with the NICS system entirely. It was supposed to keep felons from getting firearms but has failed miserably. The solution isn’t to “tweak” the cumbersome and expensive background check process. The answer is to get rid of it entirely.
Repeal the Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act limiting ownership of full-auto weapons to those made prior to 1986.
In accordance with the 1968 amendments to the National Firearms Act, there will be a 90-day amnesty registration period every year, from January 1st through April 1st (or February 29th on leap years). The ATF will have 30 days to process any NFA transaction. Failure to complete a transaction in 30 days will result in the refund of all fees to the transferees and issuance of a default registration letter stating that the NFA items in question are legally possessed even if they are not entered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
Any pilot or aircraft crew member who is an honorably discharged veteran or possesses a permit to carry from any state will be authorized to carry a firearm while in the air in any manner they deem fit.
Any schoolteacher, school employee or school volunteer who is an honorably discharged veteran or possesses a permit to carry from any state is authorized to carry a firearm in any school in any manner they deem fit. Any school district which is found in violation of this law shall forfeit all federal funds for a period of 6 months (for a first offense) and not less than 1 year for subsequent offenses.
Repeal the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1990.
Congress shall deem that Article IV Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution (commonly known as the full faith and credit clause) applies to state-issued permits to carry. Any state which fails to honor the permits of any other state shall forfeit all federal funds for a period of 6 months (for a first offense) and not less than 1 year for subsequent offenses.
In accordance with Coffin v. United States a person who is attacked in a place s/he has a right to be and who is not engaged in unlawful activity will have no duty to retreat and will have the right to meet force with force, including deadly force if s/he reasonably believes it is necessary in order to prevent death or great bodily harm to him/herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony and shall be presumed to have acted in self-defense until proven otherwise. Law enforcement may not arrest an individual for using deadly force unless they have probable cause to believe that the use of force was unlawful.
The definition of “sporting purposes” shall include all types of sport and competitive shooting and all “military style” and semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns are hereby deemed suitable for sport shooting.
Any firearm or firearm accessory made by a private individual for their personal use will be beyond the authority of Congress under its constitutional power to regulate commerce among the states.
“High capacity” magazines will be defined as any ammunition feeding device designed to hold more than 150 rounds.
“Armor piercing” bullets will be defined as any round which, when fired from a pistol with a barrel of no more than 4 inches (not including recoil or sound suppressor) can pierce 1 inch of HY-100 steel (or its equivalent) at 200 yards.
Any business will have the right to exclude weapons from their premises and by doing so they accept strict liability for protecting their employees, customers and visitors.
I completely AGREE! with one exception. We must use a different punishment for school districts. taking away funding will only hurt kids and the teachers that have no say in the rules anyway its the administrators and school districts that make those decisions. Teachers that are paid next to nothing anyway and taking away salaries wont get quality educators into teaching professions. Taking money from a school means no education for children which is no good either. I'm not against your idea but we have to make sure the punishment attacks the ones at fault.
 
There have been few times in our countries history where the potential for such abuse of our Constitution. I cannot let my mind go so far as to think about our government attempting to un-arm the people via force or attrition of arms or ammunition. However, If our government should take such steps it is the duty of it's citizens to protect our constitutional rights from our own government if need be. I'm not the kind of person to be so alarmist and I believe our President is intelligent enough to pacify the anti-gun crowd while still keeping the integrity of our second amendment. Yes, I know he's much hated by most republicans and, frankly, he's not on my Christmas list either right now but he is an intelligent man. We, as "informed" citizens will have to push back on a level not seen often these days. Fight fallacy with fact. Break down the negative statistics the media love to repeat and show where they are inaccurate or misrepresented. We need people with some level of "celebrity" to stand up and explain the truth and force the media to fact check themselves. Someone who can hold the public's attention and give the public facts that they can't argue. The media has celebrities out the wazoo...when are the pro-2A celebrities going to be put into America's TV set? We are failing as a group to defend our rights on the same level that the anti's are. Certainly contacting your representative's and such is extremely important but we need to see more action on a higher level. I don't think I've seen a single "celebrity" (and by that I mean those in the public eye) stand up and say anything to counter all the inaccuracies and misinformation being shoved down Americas throat every day on TV.
 
There have been plenty of gross transgressions of the Constitution in just the last 15 years. Domestic spying, wiretaps without warrants, databanking of emails without warrant, even the wholesale assassination/murder of US citizens without public due process.

The dun control issue is just another, unfortunately.
 
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