Wormydog1724
ATAS Ninja
I've caused a 6" POI shift in a Colt AR-15 SP1 (same as M16A1, pencil barrel, but no full auto goodies) at 100 yards just by slinging and unslinging in prone.
He isn't listening Austin. I gave up about 8 hours ago.
I've caused a 6" POI shift in a Colt AR-15 SP1 (same as M16A1, pencil barrel, but no full auto goodies) at 100 yards just by slinging and unslinging in prone.
Jesse,
I carried an M-16 or a varient thereof for over 20 years and never noticed a significant POA/POI shift with conventional handguards. And I regularly jumped out of airplanes with those guns and sometimes landed on them while performing some semblence of a PLF. I've dropped them, kicked them, put a bayonet on them and stuck them in the ground with fluids hanging off of them, slung them across my shoulders and rested my arms on them, and they still shot well enough that I'm still here.
What do you consider a drastic shif of the POI? Those abused M-16's still shot middle of the bad guy accuaracy out beyond 200m when they were needed. Might cost you points in a match shot on a square range, but the SOB at the other end sure stops bothering you on a two-way range. Same thing about carrying a .45 instead of a 9mm when you are restricted to FMJ ammo by directive (treaty, law, ROE, etc.) of the need to have something that absolutely works under the worst of conditions.
Years ago, the competition shooting community looked at the military and LE community to find out what worked and didn't work, now they look at what you guys are doing - filters it through battlefield reality - and then adopts some of what you guys are doing. In the main, FF handguards didn't get adopted. Robie Leatham instructs the SOF guys in shooting techniques under time preasure, not how to use those same guns to do something productive. Same basic technique, different applications.
I don't have any competition guns, just guns that I have acquired for what I believe to be my real world views / applications. I chose my guns and other gear to meet my perceived needs, not the USPSA or IDPA rulebooks. If the holster for my HK45c arrives in time, I will be shooting a lighted handgun on Sunday not because I'm shooting indoors, but because that is how the gun is sitting in my desk drawer next to me right now. I also use competitions as a way to practice on courses set up by someone other than myself to expand my experiences. Not that I don't love watching you guys do what you do - its awesome. It's just not the reason I come out to shoot.
So again, in your application, FF tubes are probably required. In my world, not so much.
Don
configure your rifles how you want, but please do the next switch for you. Your gunsmith got one hell of a deal!
Your gunsmith got one hell of a deal!
My gunsmith is a battle buddy. In the overall scheme of things, I probably still owe him something - or maybe he owes me, who knows.