Open for criticism

[Bob Sanders]

Need to speed things along a bit. Had a miss during first mag and threw my plan off. Grip went to hell, too. And I don't know what I was thinking on the last shot.

And the media didn't upload....

I'll try later

 

[jtischauser]

Gotta have a YouTube!
Gotta have a YouTube!

 

[Bob Sanders]

Here goes. Plays corectly on PC, but I bet this is going to be sideways. I guess I'm open to digital media criticism as well. :wink:

http://youtu.be/xI8gMHzLD0A


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xI8gMHzLD0A?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[bsdubois00]

Yup - its sideways.....youtube should be able to flip it for you although I'm not positive

 

[jtischauser]

Tell your camera man to hold the iPhone upright instead of sideways. It's a cat lady to flip videos.

As for criticism you look great and that's number one.

 

[poopgiggle]

Tell your camera man to hold the iPhone upright instead of sideways.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA[/video]

 

[poopgiggle]

Actual helpful post for OP:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesh5HoNxEo[/video]

 

[Bob Sanders]

I am not Cecil B Demille, all a really want to do is shoot 3 Gun! Dammit! :hunter:

 

[Jefpainthorse]

As far as "grip" going to hell... consider this. The grip is won or lost when we contact the grip frame with the web of the hand. One fellow I spent some training time always said "we fight with the grip we draw with" and would elaborate that with the concept that if we needed to "fix" the grip- we should do it at the holster.

When the web of the hand finds the back strap... give the hand a little "grind" (counter clockwise for right handers) - that drives the web into the backstrap and sets the thumb "up" as it should be. The second big trick is to have the "off hand" anchored to the chest in the same place every draw. As the strong hand lifts the gun "straight up" out of the holster.. that anchored off hand (high on the chest- some folks are under the throat with the thumb indexed on the clavical) the gun hand rises all the way up to the pectoral ... as the gun is pressed to the target the off hand is married in the grip and that should render things as they should be.

IF the off hand's heel is in full contact with it's side of the grip it's thumb will rotate forward and you should be ending up with a solid - thumbs forward and parallel grip on the gun. Build that grip out of the holster consistanly and you wont need to juggle it during a run.

If your taking time milking a poor grip between shots it's generally caused by - habit... or habits reinforced by not building a good grip out of the holster. The reason I break this up into separate issues is - I see people in the habit of milking a good grip out of habit (maybe a reaction to recoil or whatever) and I'd bet they don't even know they do it. The other driver is shooters who try to fix a poor grip between shots. Good grip and draw is based essentially on a 4 count draw stroke--- the initial contact and how we marry the hands as the hands come together on press out are all about muscle memory. And that comes from many CORRECT reps done is a consistant order.

Second time waster... admiration of the shot. This is action shooting... and action shooting is kinda like defensive shooting. Fire the shot- move on to the next one. That is harder than it sounds considering that our earliest shooting experiences taught us to look at the results. Be confident. Press the trigger when you have a good sight picture- EXPECT a hit and move on.

We sort of have to retrain the mind and eyes. If you focus on sights and trigger press... be confident that the bullet you let fly will impact the last place the sights were pointed at. When we cease looking for results the brain frees up and we can start to actually see the need for a make up shot... or transistion to the next target.

Last point... the cliche is "slow down to go fast" ... and part of retraining the mind is actually getting the brain to focus on the right things... learning how to call your shots in practice and training will bring huge dividends- and the net result will improve your speed. After you break a shot... concentrate on the last thing you saw - the sights on the target and learn to remember THAT so you can take that mental snapshot and evaluated the results.

 

[Bob Sanders]

Thanks!^^^^^^^^^

And Jesse, I did look good, didn't I? I have the shirt, I have the swagger, and nobody even suspects I'm at best a mid 30% D class shooter!

 

[Bob Sanders]

Just to show, that although I learned more about YouTube that I really wanted to know, it didn't beat me!!!!

http://youtu.be/9iATdfeU60U

 

[Bob Sanders]

OK, I stand bruised under the weight of crushing defeat... LOL! Where is that other forum? I'll blow it up trying to figure out how to post a video!

 

[Matt1911]

Great post Jeff. You hit on my main problem, not moving to the next shot quick enough. I always hesitate but don't really notice it until I watch video of myself and I'm yelling at the video "you hit the steel, move on dummy!!"

 

[Jefpainthorse]

I finally saw the video

Get the thumbs fixed!

Good run... I see potential

 

[Bob Sanders]

Thanks, Jeff. I think I start off fine with the grip, but lose it after first mag change. I could see myself fumbling trying to get it back. For production, there was a risk/reward factor and I blew it, causing an extra mag change. I'm also going to practice reaquiring my grip after reloads. I actually practice drawing as you described in your previous post, but honestly, I'm still new enough that a lot of it goes out the window when the buzzer sounds. There is soooo much yet to do! And sooo much fun doing it!!!

 

[Airic]

Looks like you might be a little unsure of your stage plan. Make a plan you like during the walkthrough, practice it a couple times then run it through your head over and over until its memorized. Then all you have to do is shoot targets after the beep ;-)

 

[James Peel]

Looks like you might be a little unsure of your stage plan. Make a plan you like during the walkthrough, practice it a couple times then run it through your head over and over until its memorized. Then all you have to do is shoot targets after the beep ;-)

Well, that makes it sound pretty simple!

If it makes you feel any better I'm not sure I'd have done any better

 

[Bob Sanders]

Oh I had a plan all right. Went straight to hell after I missed a popper on first mag. You can see it when I had two quick shots. It was that risk/reward thing. And to top it off, I'm always incredulous when I miss! But yet, miss I do...

 

[Jefpainthorse]

I notice that the slide lock reload finished with the slide lock releasing the slide back to battery . Moving the thumb to hit the lever usually (for most average hands anyway) moves the Glock frame inside our grip.

Solution? Hands over Top. HOT slide manipulation requires no movement of the dominant hand. It's probably a lot quicker to get the the support hand married back into the grip.

The other best peice of advice I ever got from a coach was "always pick up your gun with a purpose"... and that is the only way I was able to re teach myself to get the thumbs up on a semi auto handgun. During a reload if you dont break that "grind-in" and that thumb stays up...your gonna have to give up some time or stability if you don't. Watch a good shooter (like Troy Fullbright and a host of other here)... they cant even "air gun" a pistol without getting those thumbs up.

Troy Fullbright left a gem here a few years back... if your doing this right the manipulation of the gun should be come intristic or second nature. Basics--- grip, how you find the spare mag,,, how you count a draw..getting the sights in front of the eye... levers and switches.... all this stuff build speed, but it has to be learned with muscle memory in mind.

Will Andrews will tell you in his classes that if you don't repeat the little things exactly the same every time... your learning them the first time every time you do them