High cap mag ban?

[snowman03gt]

If they pass a high cap mag ban in let's say two months from now will handguns be on the list too?

 

[PCShogun]

A hi-cap mag is a mag just like any other. I would expect that handgun mags would be included.

The fact that it will affect NOTHING regarding handgun violence will not make a bit of difference.

 

[snowman03gt]

So any hand gun currently on sale that holds more than 10 rounds will be ban

 

[PANZER22]

We must keep hammering at the politicians particularly the Congress to look at the economic impact these proposed gun bans will have on the economy.........Where is the money going to come from to enforce these new anti gun laws and who feeds the folks in the firearms industry while they are unemployed?

 

[Chili]

I agree that we need to keep on congress about NOT banning magazines or firearms. BTW, what is the fixation with 10 round mags?

 

[TheSwampFox]

The news is saying that NY is going to limit the mag capacity to 7. That basically leaves NY'ers with mouse guns, wheel guns and 1911's. There is no doubt in mind that there will be an executive order regarding this issue. I am afraid to see what it will be.

 

[PCShogun]

So any hand gun currently on sale that holds more than 10 rounds will be ban

Likely no, they would simply modify the mags to have some sort of rubber plug so you cannot load more than 10 into the mag.

 

[crown]

What PCShogun said, same guns they just modify the magazine to only accept 10 rounds.

 

[armaborealis]

I don't know about you guys but I only own standard capacity mags, and a few neutered reduced capacity mags.

The AR-15 was designed to be used with 20 or 30 round mags. 30 round mags are standard issue for the rifle for every military and law enforcement user in the world. 30 rounds is standard capacity.
The 1911 was designed to be used with 7 or 8 round mags. They are also issued with the pistol. 7 or 8 rounds was what was issued in military and police service. 7 or 8 rounds is standard capacity.
The S&W M&P .40 was designed to be used with 15 round mags. 15 round mags are issued with the pistol. 15 round mags are used by every LE agency that has the pistol. 15 rounds is standard capacity. I have a few 10 round mags for mine that I used when driving through California, which are neutered reduced capacity magazine.

We haven't seen exactly what Sen Feinstein's mag ban would look like. New York just passed an awful law that (A) prohibits possession of any >10 round mag, even ones previously grandfathered (they already had a law about this), (B) prohibits sale, transfer, or purchase of any mag greater than 7 round capacity but grandfathers existing 10 rounders, (C) prohibits you from putting more than 7 rounds in a grandfathered 10 round mag. Bear in mind that the most common crime guns are revolvers and shotguns which will be unaffected, but if you're a good guy attacked by two or three bad guys you're screwed.

Connecticut has introduced legislation that considers any mag over one round to be "hicap" and banned.

So, stop calling standard capacity mags "high capacity." :evil: That's a bullshit antigun term that was invented to make your concealed carry handgun sound like it is as dangerous as a nuclear bomb. "High capacity" is entirely arbitrary and WILL be redefined to a smaller number like NY has done. Once you accept the logic of anything over an arbitrary magical number being "high capacity" you've lost the argument.

 

[Lupinus]

What Arma said.

It is not "high capacity". "High capacity" is that 50 round drum magazine for your 10/22. An aftermarket accessory that allows for more rounds held than the manufacturer intended. What ALL of these moronic ban proposals propose banning are standard capacity magazines, the magazine as designed for the firearm, regardless if that is your 7 round 1911 magazine or your 30 round AR or AK magazine. These are standard capacity magazines as designed for the firearm and therefor there is nothing high capacity about them. The least we should do in any debate or discussion is use the proper terminology.

That said, there is nothing wrong with either standard or high capacity magazines. And there is nothing in the presidents authority to unilaterally ban them via EO, aside from imports perhaps. If he does it's outright illegal and expect to see even higher non-compliance and wide swaths of LEA's ignoring the order.

 

[wylie]

This LAW passed last night in N Y

http://www.scribd.com/doc/120400946/Cuo ... fact-sheet

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?defaul ... y=Y&Text=Y

 

[John Canuck]

Aren't there a few gun and ammo manufacturers in NY state? It seems it's time for them to move.

 

[Tigerstripe]

i hate it for the nut and 14 people, but make sure i hear about how long it takes before someone is early released, shoots 2 mags worth of people and then himself with the one in the chamber.

and lets hear about the next time someone does not obey this law and uses 5 30 rd mags.

what if 2 or 3 million folks moved out and left NY to the crooks and bankers?

 

[Dave29461]

gs.

what if 2 or 3 million folks moved out and left NY to the crooks and bankers?

Sounds redundant to me.

Quote=John Canuck: Aren't there a few gun and ammo manufacturers in NY state? It seems it's time for them to move.

I have some family property that would make a great place for a firearm or ammo company to relocate. Maybe they'll read this and call. :lol: I wonder if the state would welcome them and how many protesters would turn out to complain.

 

[Midnight Raver]

I hope that limit applies to their police as well- maybe then they won't hit 9 bystanders any more like outside the Empire State building last year. :roll:

 

[wylie]

New York has passed their new weapons law yesterday night. they are now allowed to only have seven round magazines. any high-capacity magazines have to be turned in to the police and the people have one year to register any weapon that is considered an assault weapon. I believe that means rifles and pistols and shotguns if they have any of the evil features. And no more private transactions. And when you die your weapon gets destroyed not passed to another family member if it is considered an assault weapon. This might be coming to a movie theater near you, every state should oppose what they did in New York before this nonsense spreads to other states

 

[Tigerstripe]

maybe we can buy some cheap yankey mags. :lol:

 

[John Canuck]

http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2013/03 ... a-mistake/

So, get this guy.

A Long Island Republican says his vote in favor of New York?s new gun-control law was a ?mistake? and is now co-sponsoring a bill to repeal it.

The so-called SAFE act was a mistake. Its passage lacked transparency and public input and its wording was ill-conceived and of questionable legality. Lawmakers like myself might have caught these mistakes if we were given more than two hours to read the bill. A good leader admits a mistake and works to rectify it. That is what I am doing.

Lawmakers like yourself should have told the Governor to get bent. I hope this meathead and others like him lose their job at the next election.

 

[Tigerstripe]

hes trying a little CYA to get re elected.

 

[armaborealis]

Aren't there a few gun and ammo manufacturers in NY state? It seems it's time for them to move.

I already told Remington I'm not buying anything that comes from their Illion plant.

For other companies I am giving preference to those which close the Law Enforcement Loophole and refuse to sell anything to a LEO that can't be purchased by any other civilian. LaRue, Spikes, Wilson, Midway... Over a hundred companies to chose from.

Lawmakers like yourself should have told the Governor to get bent. I hope this meathead and others like him lose their job at the next election.

There are no legislative solutions to SAFE Act in NY. Even if the legislators could be thrown out (unlikely), and even if they passed a repeal of safe (almost impossible), the governor would surely veto any repeal.

The only hope for them is in the courts. And barring that, I imagine that if you ran a hardware store stocking feather pillows, pine tar, and railroad ties you could do pretty well in the Upstate these days.