Church concealed carry

dennishoddy · Sep 11, 2011

roadgear said:
if your church is on a school ground, would you still carry even though you're not legally allowed too?

that would be a personal decision that you and you alone would have to make.

argyle64 · Sep 12, 2011

There's a reason off duty officers work security at churches. Don't be a victim and don't wish you "had" the rest of your life.

Dux-R-Us · Sep 13, 2011

I could be mistaken, but I believe that churches (and probably other places of worship) are on the list of prohibited places for concealed weapons in OK. If you want to where your gun to a Church to worship Christ the Prince of Peace, move to Texas (please).

Burk Cornelius · Sep 13, 2011

Dux-R-Us said:
.....I believe that churches (and probably other places of worship) are on the list of prohibited places for concealed weapons in OK.

Negative

Dux-R-Us said:
If you want to wear your gun to a Church to worship Christ the Prince of Peace, move to Texas (please).

I don't see how the two are related (carrying and worshiping) but we all make the decisions that we feel best for us and our families

Mitch Rapp · Sep 13, 2011

Dux-R-Us said:
I could be mistaken, but I believe that churches (and probably other places of worship) are on the list of prohibited places for concealed weapons in OK. If you want to wear your gun to a Church to worship Christ the Prince of Peace, move to Texas (please).

Burk is correct about the first point, and I am confused about your sentiment on the second.

Churches are high value targets both to nut jobs and terrorists. Both of those groups of people would assume a church to be filled with unarmed easy prey. Aside from the obvious threat posed by Islamic radicals who have mentioned churches along with shopping malls and schools as target rich environments, many unstable persons have lashed out against churches in one form or another. The idea of "Blaming God" is sometimes present.

Dux-R-Us · Sep 14, 2011

The idea of having a weapon on my person at Mass is so profane to me I might as well stand up during the Liturgy of the Eucharist and yell F**k!

Mitch Rapp · Sep 14, 2011

Dux-R-Us said:
The idea of having a weapon on my person at Mass is so profane to me I might as well stand up during the Liturgy of the Eucharist and yell F**k!

What about carrying a weapon in church do you think would be profane? Not trying to start an argument, just trying to understand your point.

KeithCross · Sep 14, 2011

The idea of having a weapon on my person at Mass is so profane to me I might as well stand up during the Liturgy of the Eucharist and yell F**k!

I'm sorry sir, but I don't understand this either. The Bible has much to say about things that are profane vs. things that are Holy - none have to do with any form of defensive weapon that I know of. Maybe you have a scripture verse that could back this up...

Deacon · Sep 15, 2011

Dux-R-Us said:
The idea of having a weapon on my person at Mass is so profane to me I might as well stand up during the Liturgy of the Eucharist and yell F**k!

If this is truly what you think, then to carry concealed in the world but refuse to do so church is a compromise of integrity.

To paraphrase: It's not what goes into a man's hiolster that defiles him, but that which comes from his heart.

KeithCross · Sep 15, 2011

To paraphrase: It's not what goes into a man's hiolster that defiles him, but that which comes from his heart.

I'm sorry, but...BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!

Ahem, now that that's over...I truly agree. It is a double standard to live one way outside of the walls of your church nut then act differently inside the church. Kinda like the ones who talk like a normal, everyday guy at home and work, but when they are asked to pray in church they suddenly talk like a founding father - "thees" and "thous" and all that. To be OK with concealed carry in public places or at home but not at church is just that - a double standard!

Dux-R-Us · Sep 15, 2011

I'm guessing you guys must have had David Koresh as a spiritual advisor.

Burk Cornelius · Sep 15, 2011

This discussion is about Concealed carry in a church, not religious beliefs. If those two can't be separated or If it goes down that road too much further I will have to shut it down. Let's try to be civil and realize we all have different opinions

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Dux-R-Us · Sep 15, 2011

Burk Cornelius said:
This discussion is about Concealed carry in a church, not religious beliefs. If those two can't be separated or If it goes down that road too much further I will have to shut it down. Let's try to be civil and realize we all have different opinions

From the BoomerShooter.com rule book

The following topics WILL NOT be allowed for discussion:

Religion - you believe what you believe, and let everyone else believe what they choose.

You could have intervened when I was accused of having no integrity and lived by double standards, or when a blogger posted his interpretation of the Bible.

Carrying a gun in church? Really, what's the point? I'm done. bye bye.

Burk Cornelius · Sep 15, 2011

I probably should have but I hoped it would work itself out.

My comment was not directed at you but at the whole thread. I shouldn't have quoted your comment. I will fix that.

Now, let's talk guns.

Dux-R-Us said:
You could have intervened when I was accused of having no integrity and lived by double standards, or when a blogger posted his interpretation of the Bible.

Carrying a gun in church? Really, what's the point? I'm done. bye bye.

benjamin-benjamin · Sep 15, 2011

wow this got bad fast... so i will try to get this back on topic... anyone got any funny stories when someone hugged them and they felt the gun??

michaelclm · Sep 15, 2011

I believe it was Lt Col Grossman (of "On Killing" fame) who related the story of a class he was presenting to LEOs. The conversation turned to this very topic and an officer announced that he would never be caught unarmed during services. When asked why he told the story of an officer friend of his who disarmed himself prior to a service during which several people were shot by some lunatic. The officer recounted the abject terror he felt at being helpless to stop the attack swiftly. The cop in Grossman's class asked something to the effect of "Can you imagine ever feeling like that?"

Mitch Rapp · Sep 15, 2011

benjamin-benjamin said:
wow this got bad fast... so i will try to get this back on topic... anyone got any funny stories when someone hugged them and they felt the gun??

I have bus kids that want to hug me from time to time, I just keep one arm alongside the gun, usually works fine. Funniest thing to happen was a church kid who went running down the hall, which he shouldn't have been doing anyway, and he clipped me. Well, more like he clipped my gun, with his head. You should have seen the look on his face as he walked off holding his head, he thought I had the hardest hip in the world!

Burk Cornelius · Sep 15, 2011

Yeah, I always go low on my strong side.

benjamin-benjamin said:
wow this got bad fast... so i will try to get this back on topic... anyone got any funny stories when someone hugged them and they felt the gun??

benjamin-benjamin · Sep 15, 2011

Kevin S. said:
I have bus kids that want to hug me from time to time, I just keep one arm alongside the gun, usually works fine. Funniest thing to happen was a church kid who went running down the hall, which he shouldn't have been doing anyway, and he clipped me. Well, more like he clipped my gun, with his head. You should have seen the look on his face as he walked off holding his head, he thought I had the hardest hip in the world!

hahaha, i bet he quit running after that