Brass mongers at local USPSA event.

[drmitchgibson]

There was some mention in an article in Front SIght recently of TGO picking up the shooter's brass for them after they finished shooting a stage. Sounds like that may still be common practice in Arizona.

 

[dennishoddy]

Back in the 80's, we called out the shooting line up like this:

"Bill is the shooter, Pete on deck. Joe, Mary, Tom amd Mike tape, Arnold and Steve set steel, ROBERT, BRASS."

Bill went to the line to shoot, Pete prepared to shoot. Joe, Mary, Tom and Mike knew the had to tape and Rob picked up the shooters brass and returned it to him following the stage.

Not only did it let everyone know the shooting order, everyone was assigned a job at a given time. If Mike wasn't taping, or Arnold wasnt setting steel, it was obvious and easy to get on their butt about it THEN, not lament about it later.

In this case, if Robert and two nameless brass grabbers are collecting brass, that's an easy fix, too.

This trued and true method would solve the brass grabbers and other issues.

Well, that might work on occasion, but there are some with medical issues than might not be able to pick up everybody's brass.

We used to do that at the Ponca range on a voluntary basis, and it turned out the only folks that picked up the brass for everybody else were in their 70's. Everybody else walked away from it. Different times now.

To make the match run uninterrupted, the shooters need to shoot and when the match is done, and the range cleaned up from props, then brass pickup.

I've been to some matches where people brought their kids to the match to pick up the brass when taping was going on. Thats not right. Everybody deserves a chance to get that brass they brought back. If some choose to leave it there, so be it. Its fair game then AFTER the match and clean up.

People that haven't participated in the match should not have access to the range until the shooters have left.

Just my opinion.

 

[ChrisC]

Late 90's and early 2000's it was common practice to shag brass. I was surprised when I came back it wasn't dome anymore. I kind of like Davids idea.

 

[kdf9511]

I've been to some matches where people brought their kids to the match to pick up the brass when taping was going on. Thats not right. Everybody deserves a chance to get that brass they brought back. If some choose to leave it there, so be it. Its fair game then AFTER the match and clean up.

I would do that if my kids were closer. But I would only keep what I shot and have them just make a pile for everyone else.

 

[David E]

Well, that might work on occasion, but there are some with medical issues than might not be able to pick up everybody's brass.

Like who? If they're well enough to shoot the match, then they're well enough to help. If something prevents someone from brassing, then they tape extra. Seems like an easy remedy to me.

We used to do that at the Ponca range on a voluntary basis, and it turned out the only folks that picked up the brass for everybody else were in their 70's. Everybody else walked away from it. Different times now.

I don't see why the same guys would pickup brass over and over if you're calling out specific names to do specific jobs.

 

[dennishoddy]

Like who? If they're well enough to shoot the match, then they're well enough to help. If something prevents someone from brassing, then they tape extra. Seems like an easy remedy to me.

I don't see why the same guys would pickup brass over and over if you're calling out specific names to do specific jobs.

We didn't call out names. It was just a courtesy thing, when you had lots of shooters on a squad, you didn't need 16 people taping 16 targets.
After about 5 matches, when I first started, watching shooters walk away from their brass, or tell you they didn't want it when you collected it, the decision to not do that anymore was pretty easy.

As far as the physical issues, If there are the same folks picking up brass for 8 stages for 16 or so shooters over 4-8 stages, that equals to a whole lot of bending over, and stretching muscles that may not get used a lot otherwise. Why wear yourself out, when everybody else is taping up two or three targets?

Not everybody shooting can bend over and touch their toes a hundred times in a day, and still be at the top of their shooting game.

I've never been to a match where names were called to shag brass, including yours.

 

[okorpheus]

Last time I shot over at Pryor nobody on my squad was picking up brass. After finishing I stopped by one of the bays and grabbed a few handfuls (much less than I shot). Someone I think working there said something about me taking his brass. I'm pretty sure he was just joking but thought Id make sure I wasn't out of what's normally acceptable.


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