Accurate Iron vs. Benny Hill (TSS) vs. Taran Tactical M2

[irons_shooter]

Right up until the rib flies off!!

Benny, you arent getting this whole internet thing yet. I am telling people to go to you because you shift POI to match POA without hitting the crap out of a barrel..

 

[charger arms]

Just remember, there are only 4 or 5 of the proprietary barrel to magazine alignment tools in existence today to ensure slug POI. Many other smiths besides TSS, AI and TTI use a method of bending the barrel which results in really bad long term effects. Not saying anyone mentioned above does this, but hitting the barrel of a $1400 shotgun against a tree to fix POI is not what I would consider good. My recommendation is stick with the guys that have been doing this for several years and have a proven record of reliability and knowledge.

This is the first job I had AI perform on my old M1 after reading some stuff Uncle KurtM put out there. Glad I had him do it. Found out their jig had to be adapted because my M1 was old enough it had the weird sized magtube.

 

[Adam78]

Who all has the proprietary bending tool?

 

[Wall]

Who all has the proprietary bending tool?

It's not a bending tool, it's an alignment tool to avoid bending.

 

[benny hill]

I have used the tool about 2 yrs or whenever I got it. Before that it was the tree or lots of sights moveing around. Just saying in the 90's and early 2000's it was the tree or hold off.

 

[Adam78]

It's not a bending tool, it's an alignment tool to avoid bending.

So how does the tool align it then? I just assumed it was a jig with some rods you put through the barrel and tube and then turn a screw adjustment that bends one or the other to align them.

 

[Wall]

So how does the tool align it then? I just assumed it was a jig with some rods you put through the barrel and tube and then turn a screw adjustment that bends one or the other to align them.

It's proprietary [emoji4]

 

[Adam78]

It's proprietary [emoji4]

Haha, touche. So who all has them?

 

[Wall]

Haha, touche. So who all has them?

I can only think of the 3 Pinto mentioned earlier. I can't remember the other 2. Maybe Jeff at C-Rums & Mark at RCI but I can't remember.

Just get a shotgun from Triangle Shooting Sports and you know you're good to go.

 

[jtischauser]

It's not a bending tool, it's an alignment tool to avoid bending.

They bend the crooked mag tube rather then the barrel now.

 

[benny hill]

Trust me, nothing is bent, just realined.

 

[GunCat]

Benny knows what he is talking about. That Propriety/RNT/KurtM fixture does not bend anything, just keeps everything lined up. I know that because we have one of the fixtures here at Rose Action Sports.

There is a story about Hershel House, the legendary flintlock rifle builder, getting fussed at by a customer for bending a barrel using a fork in a tree. The customer see Hershel tugging on the barrel and say “Stop, you'll bend it”. Hershel say “Hell its already bent, I am unbending it”

 

[charger arms]

Benny knows what he is talking about. That Propriety/RNT/KurtM fixture does not bend anything, just keeps everything lined up. I know that because we have one of the fixtures here at Rose Action Sports.

There is a story about Hershel House, the legendary flintlock rifle builder, getting fussed at by a customer for bending a barrel using a fork in a tree. The customer see Hershel tugging on the barrel and say “Stop, you'll bend it”. Hershel say “Hell its already bent, I am unbending it”

Good to know Steve. Do you know if the VersaMax line suffers this problem as well?

 

[GunCat]

Good to know Steve. Do you know if the VersaMax line suffers this problem as well?

The mag tube / barrel alignment can be an issue with the VM, but more often the VM suffers from vent ribs that are not attached parallel with the bore

(The Benelli fixture is purpose built for the M1/M2 platform only - the dimension of the VM are different)

 

[benny hill]

Bingo on the VR being off on a versa max. NOW that is a gun I have wore a telephone pole out beating it on it. BUT, hey, it works and gentry kicks ass with his.

 

[jtischauser]

The mag tube / barrel alignment can be an issue with the VM, but more often the VM suffers from vent ribs that are not attached parallel with the bore

(The Benelli fixture is purpose built for the M1/M2 platform only - the dimension of the VM are different)

Steve, somebody was asking about cutting a barrel down and having it rethreaded in another thread. I recommended they contact you. You might reach out. Thanks.

 

[jtischauser]

The mag tube / barrel alignment can be an issue with the VM, but more often the VM suffers from vent ribs that are not attached parallel with the bore

(The Benelli fixture is purpose built for the M1/M2 platform only - the dimension of the VM are different)

Here is the thread.

http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/index.php/topic/21883-versa-max-mods/#entry244464

 

[GunCat]

Steve, somebody was asking about cutting a barrel down and having it rethreaded in another thread. I recommended they contact you. You might reach out. Thanks.

Mike and I spoke yesterday. Thanks for the reference.

 

[FlashAndPoof]

Please please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I believe Taran takes 3 pounds off the factory trigger weight but Accurate Iron doesn't.
Other than that, I think it's mostly aesthetics. I'll admit to preferring TTI's flashy work...

 

[striped1]

Please please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I believe Taran takes 3 pounds off the factory trigger weight but Accurate Iron doesn't.
Other than that, I think it's mostly aesthetics. I'll admit to preferring TTI's flashy work...

Please please correct me if I'm wrong.. but I believe Taran takes 3 pounds off the factory trigger weight but Accurate Iron doesn't.
Other than that, I think it's mostly aesthetics. I'll admit to preferring TTI's flashy work...

It is a shotgun not a sniper rifle. TTI does change springs. I have a AI M2 with some TTI and RCI parts and it is an awesome piece of equipment. Has never had an issue in 2+ years. You cannot go wrong with AI, TTI or Benny Hill working on your shotguns.