RMR on your carry gun

gaijin

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I've been flailing away with this RMR striker gun for a couple months.
"Proof is in the pudding"/"pretty is as pretty does" they say.
Shooting RMR handgun is fairly simple left to my own shooting groups at the range, shooting a match with one demonstrates to me what I can (and can't) do under stress.

We had a 24 rd. (12 targets), 55 yd. string in a match two weeks back. (Not a sanctioned USPSA match)
Targets were partial, full and with random "no shoots" obscuring shoot targets. A moderate degree of difficulty considering on the timer.
I had 1-D, 2-c's and 22-A's for the stage. This is considerably better than I can do with irons.

I believe a degree of proficiency with an RMR gun is a good thing these days. Besides, the challenge is fun and probably good for me.

As others have stated the hurdle here is the muscle memory with irons- acquired over umpteen years (OK, decades) of repetition.

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Chax

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I have found a reliable transition to RMR inside of a month with a few presentations each day or two. I found it necessary to practice one handed as well. Shooting itself is WAY more accurate. All regular holsters i have fit without any issue. It IS a good idea tho, to inow how long the batt life is on YOUR make unit and test it with cheapo batts and then use good ones.
Carry seems no different than irons and i also deer hunt with one on 10mm.
As an old guy, i never thought they could last so long and be so reliable. Press out from the nose is a REAL sure way to keep your dot in your line of sight.
 

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All great info, and probably a good deal of fun for a range gun. But... in the heat of the moment, you probably will be faced more with a "point and shoot" situation (close up work). JMO (ymmv).
 

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Meh.........
Quite possibly.

However, the red dot allows me to superimpose the dot on the threat when shooting. No blurry target wheel trying to focus on front sight. I see this as a HUGE benefit for an old fart like me who shoots at the range with prescription shooting glasses. No need to put on glasses with a res dot
 

gaijin

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The transition from irons to RD has been slow for me.
I shot "Unlimited", with optics (anyone remember the cutting edge Tasco, 30mm tube Dot Scope") 30+ years ago. Apparently I shot this platform OK as I was a "Master" shooter back then.
After I quit competing I reverted to Irons exclusively.
In my case, taking up optics again was NOT like riding a bike; I had a ***** of a time finding the dot on presentation.

I kept with it; endless dryfire and frequent live fire- from the/a holster.

Happily it has improved a great deal. There have been a couple of epiphanies pr "ahh ha" moments.
I won't attempt to outline my path to improvement as it likely would be irrelevant to anyone else.
I will say I can quantify improvement via shot timer and place of finish in matches.

I would not hesitate to carry optics currently, with appropriate cover garment. (Like Winter)

At contact distance I shoot with the slide in my lower peripheral vision, a form of "point shoot" I suppose. This method is quick for me.
Heck, I did that with irons as well.

My advice is; keep at it, be relentlessly disciplined and it will come. :)

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Chax

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a quick point shot defensive shot would be pert much the same with, or without an RD sight. I have found by chance that my guns can actually be aimed in a "fair" close range defense manner by using the top cornor along the slide as at least an alternative back up if one s dot is "out" and there are no BUI. Not preffered, but at least you have "something" that for me would at least hit a basketball at 20 yd or so; an alternative to only pointing.
Id be interested in what we all may find, aiming at a point, and holding steady, what do you see when shifting your aim to along one upper corner of your slide? Ive never actually taken shots that way, but ill have to try it today, now that this is the first time ive written the idea. Again, to me, i ve tried it in reverse manner, slide first, check sight, and fairly well BINGO!
 

Chax

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Maybe Gaijin meant the same thing in his post above and if so please pardon me. My red dots are on polimers so id have to check that method on one of my 1911 s to see if the slide aim is "there". Those slides are more rounded on the top, whereas the polimers are more square, formîng that "corner of aim".
 

gaijin

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I see a foreshortened image of top of slide in my peripheral, with the target in hot/clear focus.
It is simple to connect with a "half head shot" behind a "hostage" to a few yds. using this method IME.
 

ThePlumber

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I have gone a bit dot crazy, as of late. I've shot close to 10,000 rounds in the last 6 months through a number of different dots and pistols. I can present the pistol and get the dot 98-99% of the time. I does depend on the pistol. When I switch from one to the other in the same range session it takes my a couple of presentations to adjust (grip angle, etc)

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gaijin

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Holosun's latest entry in the RD lineup is their 407c.
Identical to the 507c, but eliminates the 30 MOA circle feature and having the 2 MOA Dot only.
It is also about $100 cheaper.
 
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