Yoda said:
Armaborealis, I see your point, I was thinking primarily about the City dwellers.
You're correct, Upstate Ney York is really a different planet almost.
The entire state of New York has a leadership problem.
I wonder what the penalty is for submitting a false report like that?
What did they call this in the 60's? civil disobedience? as in civilians? or as in civility?
There would need to be some kind of an education campaign on the correct way to submit a false report without being caught.
One problem with conservatives is that they tend to at least try and obey the law.
Liberals rely on this.
Don't submit
false reports. Go read my second post in this thread for a bunch of ideas for reports which you can truthfully make. You
KNOW, 100%, that the NYS cops will have illegal magazines for their sidearms and assault/patrol rifles (SAFE has no police exemption, it was drafted so poorly and quickly). So, google some police departments that are excited about vigorously enforcing the law like the one that arrested Nathan Haddad (Jefferson County, I believe) and call them in. "The Jones Household has a bunch of high cap mags for pistols and rifles. I suspect they have an assault weapon (
the officer's patrol rifle) in the home too."
You can reasonably suspect that other people have stuff that is illegal. For example, it is reasonable to suspect that a liberal media anti-gun pistol permit holder has an illegal high cap mag. Don't say, "I KNOW that Joe Smith has illegal stuff." Say, "I'm AFRAID that Joe Smith has illegal stuff. I
know that he has a pistol (
he has a pistol permit) and I am
afraid that he has a big magazine. That scares me because Governor Cuomo said that nobody needs more than seven shots to kill a deer." That is 100% truthful.
The other option is to troll the snitch line. NYS has a "one party consent" wiretapping law. That is, if you (one part) consents to recording the conversation you can record the call. I guarantee
they are recording!
So, call them up and ask dumb and/or offensive questions.
- "Is there a bonus for reporting military members or veterans? What if they turn out to have PTSD? Do you think veterans should be allowed to own guns? I'm so scared of veterans, aren't you?!"
- "So, do I get more money for turning in a Jew/Muslim/Christian Conservative? After 9/11 (or Oklahoma City, or whatever) do you think
those people should be allowed to have guns?"
- "Do you think it would be racist for me to report a brown/white/black/white/purple person? Do you think
those people should have guns? I'm so scared!" "
- "So will I get paid extra if I turn in extremist Tea Partier Republicans? Why not? They oppose all sorts of awesome liberal policies and are bad people, right? Don't you agree that the Governor's foes should be disarmed so he can get on with the people's work? FORWARD! HOPE & CHANGE!"
- "So I know a woman that owns a gun and between you and me -- just guys, right -- we all know that's
concerning. Don't you agree? Do you think women are responsible enough to own guns?"
The idea is to get the state employee on record saying something dumb, bigoted, and offensive about a group. That's not illegal either, and you're not making a false report because you're just asking questions. The Republicans got the Democrats on record saying all sorts of dumb offensive BS about women, veterans, and other groups in Colorado (and in DC) and actually scuttled some gun control bills in Denver over it. I guarantee some dumbass state employee mouthbreather has a chance of saying something stupid on tape, which you can then send to conservative media for exploitatation.
A third option would be to just tie them up by asking questions about SAFE Act. Pull up your favorite gun manufacturer's site and slowly describe a firearm to the guy on the line to determine if it is legal or not. For example, call about the Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle which could easily be confused with an assault weapon as it has a muzzle device and takes mags.
Obviously contacting your state legislators (on issues like Constitutional Carry, Restaurant Carry, and so on) and your federal legislators (regarding the awful bills pending in the Senate now) is the priority. But if you have time and energy I suggest trying out trolling New York's stasi snitch line. I just made a call tonight and had a great two minute chat trolling the guy.
I am
not encouraging anyone to do anything illegal. However as New York State reminds us all good citizens have an obligation to pass any and all information to the right authorities. It is the State Police's job to investigate and confirm/deny the tips. It is our job as concerned citizens to provide tips with whatever information we have available. A good "law and order" conservative should be all over this!
PANZER22 said:
If I have a neighbor that behaves erratically and flaunts firearms, I'm going for the $500 bucks..............It might stop another senseless killing..........In these troubled times, people that behave badly and own firearms should be watched..........For one thing it makes us the responsible gun owners look bad when irresponsible people are seen in public behaving badly with firearms.
I hope you're joking. Otherwise, feel free to sign up with Organizing for America. I hear Uncle Joe will give new recruits a free SEIU T-Shirt after ratting out their first victim and a free Jr. Stasi Badge after three good tips! :roll:
If you think someone is brandishing a firearm at you with criminal intent then the only appropriate steps are to (1) retreat if you can do so safely or end the threat if you can't and (2) calling 911 to clean up the mess (or contain the threat). Profit motive does not enter the equation, your concern for innocent human life should be the dominant concern. If you are truly concerned that your neighbor has mental illness issues that don't rise to the level of an imminent threat justifying a 911 call, then you can call NICS for a temporary hold and engage with their family to support them as they get help from a chaplain/pastor, counselor, or mental health professional.
Please google "judenrat" or "US Code of Conduct Article Three" or "thirty pieces of silver" (it being Easter weekend and all) if this concept is unclear. :?