Stupidest thing an "Expert" has ever told you.

Mitch Rapp

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Ok, here are the three that came to my mind first.

"Former Navy SEAL" who said the guns they use on the other side of the equator have to have a different direction of twist than we do on this side. He also claimed to have made the longest shot anyone in his unit had ever seen (nearly a mile), and in VERY high winds. My rule for dealing with anyone in the Armed forces, if they start out by telling you they were special forces, they probably weren't.


A guy I know real well used to sight his scopes for his blackpowder and 30-06 in on his .22 cause it's cheaper and easier. We tried to tell him that wouldn't work, but he wouldn't listen cause "I was in the Army, I know how to shoot and sight in guns". I know for a fact he WAS in the Army, and that he was a cook for part of the time, and a mechanic for the other.


Girl at the gun counter at a store tells the person right beside me "No you don't want a .380, you should get a 38spl, all of my family is in law enforcement or works for the sheriff's department, trust me a 38spl will stop anybody, one shot." I almost slapped her......
 
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I wore my BCM American flag hat and TAD Jacket to the bar, as I always do and wear everywhere. A guy asked if I was military. No I said. He then went on and on how was was and how he got kicked out of sniper school because he shot too good and made the instructors look bad. Also asked me if I knew how far 100 yards was. I said ya 100 yards. He said ya but do you know how far that is? I said ya 100 yards is 100 yards. The dumbass didn't get it and thought I was the idiot because I didn't say 100 yards is as long as a football field. He said that's the furthest they had him shoot and that was the distance that he made the instructors look bad. I wanted to kick the guy in the testicles and shove a pool stick up his ass for lying about being in the military.
 
Not an "expert story" but still a story of complete bullsh!t.

I got a text from a friend this last deer season. He said his co-worker told him that he shot a deer at 975 yards. I called bullsh!t and told him to find out what the specs were on the gun and ammo, and to find out the weather situation that it all took place in. He found out the details and said he was using a Remington 700 in 300 win mag with 180gr handloaded bullet chronoed at 3100fps. Weather was cold and windy (he said around a 15mph crosswind) zeroed at 200 yards and held the reticle about 5 feet over the deer and held 2 1/2 feet holdover for the wind.

So I sat down and did a little math. Here is the real data:

975yrd
drop = 248.5" ~ 20 feet (not 5 feet)
ft/sec = 1543.8 @ 975yrds
Wind drift (15mph 3:00) = 106" ~ 9 feet (not 2 1/2 feet)

He would have had to aim 20' high and 9 feet of windage.

I told him to tell his coworker that he was completely full of elephant dung, and if he wanted to prove it that I had a range that he could shoot that far and I'd bet him $1000 he couldn't do it again.
 
I was a security cop in USAF in the '80s. Carried a damn M16 and 240 rounds of .223 every duty day for nearly four years. Most boring, dullest job I ever had. Always wanted to see if I could shoot my initials in the side of those damn E3 AWACS I had to babysit at Tinker. When I left the service I had to convince my pet spider to crawl out of the barrel. I hate black guns so I'll never be an expert.
 
it goes in cycles... and right now the cycle is all about the Taurus Judge Handgun.

Everytime I go into a gun store any more... some counter man is nodding his head "yes" to appease every dumb thing the potential buyer is saying about shooting melons.
 
it goes in cycles... and right now the cycle is all about the Taurus Judge Handgun.

Everytime I go into a gun store any more... some counter man is nodding his head "yes" to appease every dumb thing the potential buyer is saying about shooting melons.

I was in the little gun & pawn shop in town about a year ago. Some yo-yo was spouting off about shooting a red tailed hawk with his Judge. "Damn thing exploded, there was nothing left!" Rather than call him on this obvious BS, I just asked him why he felt compelled to shoot a red tailed hawk. He looked at me like I was the idiot.

-S
 
A couple months ago I was at one of the local pawnshops looking at the guns, they had an older Colt 1911 in the case for $800. I don't know much about 1911's, I've only owned 2 but never shot 1, I only bought the 2 because I got a good deal on them. But this Colt was in great shape and I know it was was well worth the $800. I asked to see it, the guy behind the counter started telling me that he does not reccomend anyone to buy a 1911, he said that they are horrible guns with a low ammo capacity, he also told me they jam way too much. He said thats why no police carry them.

Its not as good as some of yalls stories but this guy pissed me off by the way the way he was talking to me. I don't even like 1911's, but I know a good one when I see it
 
Mine isn't very good either, but was in the Broken Arrow BP shop. The counter guy was telling a customer that he could shoot 5.56 in his .223 without any problems. I stepped into the conversation, and mentioned that doing that could result in dangerous high pressures.
Counter guy told me and everybody else in earshot that he had been shooting 5.56 for years in his Browning Bolt gun and there has never been any problems....I walked away, and caught the customer by himself later and explained how it could be a bad thing to do....I think he believed the counter guy. :angry:
 
I always love it when the "Expert" starts bad mouthing another professional trainer. I also love all the "Delta, Green Beret, Ranger, Navy Seal", guys out there. You'd think thats all there was in our armed forces!!
 
Hey easy there, I know all about Delta Seals...if you put them in wrong they will leak :lol:

I guess the one that comes to mind was the Expert, who at the time wrote articles for Guns and Ammo, Shooting Times and the NRA told me dry firing a 1911 WILL break the firing pin stop and they always should have a snap cap in them or the stop would breakl in half.

Now for those of you who don't have a 1911 style pistol, the firing pin stop is the little plate that the end of the firing pin sticks through for the hammer to hit, and it keeps the firing pin in the gun. The 1911 also has a FLOATING firing pin...which mean the pin is shorter than the length of the firing pin tunnel and it works by inertia; being hit by the hammer shoves it forward to hit the primer and then retracts back into the firing pin tunnel. The only reason I mention this is that since it is a floating firing pin, the stop gets the same hit whether it is loaded or not! And this guy was supposedly THE 1911 expert all looked to for answers.

Sometimes it is the little stuff!
 
I took a little pink colored single shot Cricket .22 over to Cyrwus's place to have him Duracoat it purple for my daughter.
While looking the gun over he says "bore this thing out to accept magnum .22's and it would be a perfect gun to shoot those damn coyotes behind my house"

PSSSHHH.... What does that guy know.
 
Just the other day, I called a local gunsmith about doing a trigger job on an m&p. I'm used to people saying "no" on it for liability reasons, but as soon as I asked he barks right back "Can't be done". Not wanting to argue with him I said "ok", he then explained that "that's why he doesn't sell them, you can't do anything on them. You get what you get". Still not wanting to argue or name drop the few people that do m&p trigger jobs I just rolled my eyes and said "ok". Some "Expert".
 
Kurt can verify this one. a young, up and coming competitor:"how do I shoot this polish plate rack??" Expert(dead serious!!!)Just shoot it fast!!!!, and don't worry about which plate to shoot.

excellent instruction!!!

Oh and then there was this guy that claimed to be a geologist, trying to tell me the balsamic vinegar could be found all over the rocks in NM!!! :lol:

trapr
 
One time some expert told me to use his duct tape to secure my WML. Jokes on him; I kept the roll of tape!
 
I once was told by a co-worker that shooting lead bullets will wear out the barrel in my .45 This guy is known to be THE biggest BS'er in our circle of peers. Supposedly he was an M-60 gunner in the War and when I asked him what calibre that gun was (cuz' I did'nt really know) he said it was 30-06. I am no military expert but did'nt the M-60 shoot 7.62mm Nato, commonly referred to .308 Win by civilians?

One wonders if sometimes we have "I am stupid, tell me anything" stamped on our foreheads which is only visible to morons, liars, and big-shot wannabees.

T2​FN

The Duck and Frenz
 
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