benjamin-benjamin
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(just stick with me and read all the way through)
I work a lot with dogs and also work with the pit bull rescue. I (and other "bully breed" supporters) all agree that the govt has no right to come in and dictate if i can own a pit bull or any other type of dog (of course there is a lot more to this argument, but no reason to go into it). Also what everyone agrees upon is stronger regulations for people that use dogs "illegally", meaning dog fighting, puppy mills, mistreatment of dogs, etc.. Everyone understands that these people are only hurting the "cause", not helping (along with the fact it is morally wrong), so we are also the most vocal supporters of harsh penalties for people "don't handle dogs correctly". So i say of all that to say this.
I am shocked (and frankly discouraged) that not only is their no outcry when people misuse guns, but there is actually support for these people. Maybe it really is a race thing, maybe people really are so paranoid that they will defend anyone with a gun, i honestly don't know. So even if we throw out zimmerman, just lately
we have a guy shooting at a fleeing car because some teenagers egged his car and actually killing a 15 year old girl people saying things like "that is what they get for messing with someone else's property" and "of course it was gang related, there were multiple people in the car, so that makes it a gang, one less of them off the street"
we have a guy shooting and killing an unarmed teenager because their "thug music" was so loud and after killing him then gets out of his vehicle and shoots numerous times as the vehicle flees, and is not even charged with ANYTHING when it comes to the kid he killed (only charged with attempted murder for the other 3) and then writes a racist letter talking about how the court system is favorable to "blacks", you know the court system that never sends "blacks" to jail. and people are saying things like "well he shouldn't have confronted the guy, etc.."
i could go on and on about other very obvious cases, but i will stop here. Not saying i am reading or hearing these things from this forum, but i am shocked by what i read and hear elsewhere. I think it is funny that these same people if confronted the way the people killed were confronted they would have shot the other guy. The very people supporting people killing unarmed people, would have killed the person they are defending. If at a gas station and someone comes and confronts you and pulls out a gun, what would you do? The biggest issue is that the teenager was unarmed.....
I could go on and on, but i guess i am shocked that i feel like i am one of the only people or part of a very small minority that actually speaks up or feels like these people shouldn't be defended...I won't even get into the irony of people saying "all liberals are closed minded and will just argue anything to support their agenda"....
I work a lot with dogs and also work with the pit bull rescue. I (and other "bully breed" supporters) all agree that the govt has no right to come in and dictate if i can own a pit bull or any other type of dog (of course there is a lot more to this argument, but no reason to go into it). Also what everyone agrees upon is stronger regulations for people that use dogs "illegally", meaning dog fighting, puppy mills, mistreatment of dogs, etc.. Everyone understands that these people are only hurting the "cause", not helping (along with the fact it is morally wrong), so we are also the most vocal supporters of harsh penalties for people "don't handle dogs correctly". So i say of all that to say this.
I am shocked (and frankly discouraged) that not only is their no outcry when people misuse guns, but there is actually support for these people. Maybe it really is a race thing, maybe people really are so paranoid that they will defend anyone with a gun, i honestly don't know. So even if we throw out zimmerman, just lately
we have a guy shooting at a fleeing car because some teenagers egged his car and actually killing a 15 year old girl people saying things like "that is what they get for messing with someone else's property" and "of course it was gang related, there were multiple people in the car, so that makes it a gang, one less of them off the street"
we have a guy shooting and killing an unarmed teenager because their "thug music" was so loud and after killing him then gets out of his vehicle and shoots numerous times as the vehicle flees, and is not even charged with ANYTHING when it comes to the kid he killed (only charged with attempted murder for the other 3) and then writes a racist letter talking about how the court system is favorable to "blacks", you know the court system that never sends "blacks" to jail. and people are saying things like "well he shouldn't have confronted the guy, etc.."
i could go on and on about other very obvious cases, but i will stop here. Not saying i am reading or hearing these things from this forum, but i am shocked by what i read and hear elsewhere. I think it is funny that these same people if confronted the way the people killed were confronted they would have shot the other guy. The very people supporting people killing unarmed people, would have killed the person they are defending. If at a gas station and someone comes and confronts you and pulls out a gun, what would you do? The biggest issue is that the teenager was unarmed.....
I could go on and on, but i guess i am shocked that i feel like i am one of the only people or part of a very small minority that actually speaks up or feels like these people shouldn't be defended...I won't even get into the irony of people saying "all liberals are closed minded and will just argue anything to support their agenda"....