Sights? What sights?

drmitchgibson · May 9, 2011

So, I shot really, really terribly at USPSA at OKCGC the other day. I had suspected when I bought my third-hand Glock 17 that the sights were off, but I couldn't really tell because I only shot it to test ammo I was also using to function-test a Hi-Power I was tuning at the time. Big mistake! I used the G17 to HORRIBLE effect at the match; I used 85 rounds per stage in two consecutive stages. But I had been up drinking a little until 2AM the night before the match, so I didn't really know if it was me, and the gun was easy to blame. And good thing I did blame it, because it shoots as much as 2" to the left and 1 1/2" low. Holy effing crap! Man, I will not make that mistake again. I had to sheepishly buy/borrow ammo just to finish the match.

Make sure your competition gun shoots where you point it.

ef9turbo · May 9, 2011

Low left sounds like a shooter error.

If you're looking at new sights, I really like Warren Tactical sights. I run Sevigny Competition with FO front sight. Sights for Glocks is like buying a new car. Test drive them if you can get a chance to.

PDN · May 9, 2011

I saw you shoot a couple of the stages and I figured something might have been up with your gun or sights because you weren't hitting anything very cleanly. I'm glad to hear you figured it out. I'm new to competitive shooting but it's a lot like hunting... Preparation is critical... including sighting and occasionally resighting is very important. I always try to leave nothing that I can control to chance. I saw some of the guys with raceguns on Saturday covering their guns and lubricating between stages. Maybe thats overkill but you never know... That might have eliminated one jam that in turn meant the difference in winning or losing the match.

It was good to meet you on Saturday. Happy shooting...

-Paul

Wall · May 9, 2011

Dr Mitch said:
it shoots as much as 2" to the left and 1 1/2" low.

At what distance?
Aiming at center A zone, that'd still be an "A" & it'd still hit the plates & poppers.

Jefpainthorse · May 10, 2011

Glocks alledgedly shoot left for a lot of right handed shooters... so Ive read. Any truth to that?

If you were shooting a human body would you be between the nipples with that margin of error? A zone hits are "combat accurate"... if your looking for "cloverleafs" your shooting too slow anyway.

Rodshoot · Sep 10, 2011

I've had some shoot my loaners and complain because the bullets hit a foot low at 5 yds.
Funny, when they held the gun with the sights aligned and I reached under their line of vision and squeezed the trigger, it was dead on!!
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imacgyver · Sep 10, 2011

It's always me, my gun is dead on

Feegee · Sep 10, 2011

What do you guys think about these, do you think these are good for quick aiming

Ameriglo Glock Ghost Ring Night Sight. 3 DOT Green/green. Model # GL-126
AmeriGlo

drmitchgibson · Sep 10, 2011

There's no reason to have night sights on a competition gun unless it doubles as a HD gun, which seems like a bad idea. I like the idea of ghost ring sights on a pistol, but I'm not sure if it's practical. My G17 is rolling Dawson's now, a .100" wide front fiber-optic and an adjustable rear. The gun always shot a bit low, since the night sights it had weren't really suitable for cutting down. Now that won't be an issue. I was set on 10-8 sights with the widest notch, but Mike recommended the Dawson's, and the last time I went against his recommendation (on my SBE front sight) I regretted it.

Feegee · Sep 10, 2011

Yea I went with Dawson also and I like them. I shoot a little low also with mine.

oklaccer · Jan 18, 2012

From what I can gather, sights are like holsters, everyone has their preference and probably has a drawer with several sets sitting, waiting. Still, I will ask for advise. My interest is in steel challenge, and I am new to the sport. I'm shooting a 22conversion on a Glock 23 frame. I wear progressive bifocals and with a normal shooting posture, the sights are just a blur. I can move my head to where the sights are more in focus, but it is such an odd position that it is unusable for competition. I am probably wrong in assuming that a change in sights will be all that I need so I have involved my eye Dr. for new lenses. However, does anyone have experience with this sort of problem and a sight solution they would recommend.

dennishoddy · Jan 19, 2012

I wear standard bifocals. It's tough because either the sight is in focus, or the target is. One or the other is out of focus. I'm thinking about trying some drug store reading glasses to see if I could strike a happy medium, then getting some safety type glasses in the same strength.

foghorn918 · Jan 19, 2012

Same here. Bifocals were tough for me as well. A few years back I had the eye doc make me a pair for computer work, essentially my focul point is about 24" to 36" out with these. I tried them for shooting and have found I do better wearing them than my regular bifocals. Front sight is clear and target are blurred, but I can make them out OK, and the lens is all 1 strength instead of 2 or in my case the no line bifocal transition area.

I can't see down range to know if I got my hits, so that's where calling the shot with the sights is so important. I'm still working on that when that dang timer goes off, then the title of the thread hits home......sights? what sights?

Lance Jensen · Jan 19, 2012

I use Warren Tactical night sights on my glock "competition" pistol. To each his own... you will find some sights work and others dont. Gets expensive trying to figure it out

Lance Jensen · Jan 19, 2012

oklaccer said:
From what I can gather, sights are like holsters, everyone has their preference and probably has a drawer with several sets sitting, waiting. Still, I will ask for advise. My interest is in steel challenge, and I am new to the sport. I'm shooting a 22conversion on a Glock 23 frame. I wear progressive bifocals and with a normal shooting posture, the sights are just a blur. I can move my head to where the sights are more in focus, but it is such an odd position that it is unusable for competition. I am probably wrong in assuming that a change in sights will be all that I need so I have involved my eye Dr. for new lenses. However, does anyone have experience with this sort of problem and a sight solution they would recommend.

Have your Doc put the bifocals on top

xdnok · Jan 19, 2012

Lance Jensen said:
Have your Doc put the bifocals on top

I had some custom lenses made that put the bifocal at the top inner side of the right lens, really helps to see the front sight. In my case it's only my close in vision on my dominate eye that needs correction and with a little practice lowering my head and using both eyes I have a pretty decent sight picture. Before I spent money I took a pair of cheap readers and cut and shaped the lens to fit in the upper inside corner of my shooting glasses and taped it in, pretty frankinstien looking but it proved the point.

Wes

oklaccer · Jan 19, 2012

Meeting with the eye doc tomorrow and will see what he comes up with. Will let you know.

jspeligene · Jan 19, 2012

oklaccer said:
Meeting with the eye doc tomorrow and will see what he comes up with. Will let you know.

I had the same problem with bifocals. I did the same as Wes in reverse order. I just had a cheap (60 bucks or so) pair made at eyemart express & had them take their weakest bifocal and put it in upside down on the right side...just show them where you want it centered. It worked well, but they weren't 'official' safety glasses. I then cut down a cheap pair of +1.25 readers from dollar general and hot glued it up high on the right side of my shooting glasses. Used them last Sunday at Heartland and liked them really well.