SDA permit & background checks

harper · Mar 21, 2013

Hello,
I've heard in some states having a valid SDA permit counts as a background check when purchasing from a FFL dealer. They take your number and off you go.
Is this true in OK? Last month I bought from a dealer and was delayed 3 days. Wonderin' if when my SDA permit comes in (35 days and counting) it'll be easier to buy.
Thanks.

dennishoddy · Mar 21, 2013

At one time, you could do this in OK.
My recollection is a little murky, but I THINK it was after 911 when it changed?

jtischauser · Mar 21, 2013

I've never heard of anyone using the carry permit to do anything in regards to buying a firearm.

Jack T. · Mar 21, 2013

Yes, some states do have this (Colorado for sure, others I'm less sure about). . .not sure how it works, but it'd be nice if we could do it as well.

kdf9511 · Mar 21, 2013

Used to be able to do that in MO IIRC.

Matt1911 · Mar 21, 2013

I haven't heard of Oklahoma residents being able to do it, but I might try it with my next purchase.

Wall · Mar 21, 2013

Matt Rigsby said:
I haven't heard of Oklahoma residents being able to do it, but I might try it with my next purchase.

it was like that at the beginning of the SDA but no longer.
An SDA or CCL is a state issued license based on state requirements & a background check performed by the state.

a 4473 & NICS check is a federal requirement with a federal background check.

dennishoddy · Mar 21, 2013

Wall said:
it was like that at the beginning of the SDA but no longer.
An SDA or CCL is a state issued license based on state requirements & a background check performed by the state.

a 4473 & NICS check is a federal requirement with a federal background check.

Yeah, I was with a guy at a pawn shop years ago. The owner took his CCL, made a copy, and handed him the pistol.
There was something that triggered the change. I just can't remember what it was.

harper · Mar 22, 2013

sent the OSBI an email yesterday and they got back surprisingly quick. here's what they had to say:

"The background checks that are conducted when you purchase your weapon is conducted through NICS. So to answer your first question, having a valid CCW license bares not weight when purchasing a weapon. NICS would be able to answer your questions as to why your background check was delayed or any other questions you have that are related to the purchase of a weapon. The phone number for NICS is 1-877-444-6427."

so that answers that.

anybody else been delayed when purchasing from a FFL and not know why? I wonder if it was because I had submitted my application for CCW a week or two before my purchase and the system flagged a recent background check...

Wall · Mar 22, 2013

harper said:
I wonder if it was because I had submitted my application for CCW a week or two before my purchase and the system flagged a recent background check...

No, they are 2 different checks. One is conducted by OSBI, the other is through NICS.