Rifle Grip for 3 Gun.

Dildos aside, the extended support hand with the thumb wrapped over the top is making its way into the military, at least to the military police law enforcement rifle program being developed now. Obviously, the grip must be altered or tweaked to be effective with devices mounted on the rifle. Being too tired to mount a rifle in a fight is not something I have ever considered, even with three tours to Iraq.

Now, the original reason I searched and found this topic; Does anyone here mount an angled fore grip or hand stop on their competition rifle to provide consistent hand placement, or is it better to have a naked fore end to be able to change hand placement for different firing positions?
 
runawaygun762 said:
Dildos aside, the extended support hand with the thumb wrapped over the top is making its way into the military, at least to the military police law enforcement rifle program being developed now. Obviously, the grip must be altered or tweaked to be effective with devices mounted on the rifle. Being too tired to mount a rifle in a fight is not something I have ever considered, even with three tours to Iraq.

Now, the original reason I searched and found this topic; Does anyone here mount an angled fore grip or hand stop on their competition rifle to provide consistent hand placement, or is it better to have a naked fore end to be able to change hand placement for different firing positions?
I haven't been competing for very long but I have a angled fore grip on my rifle and found it to be rather annoying to interact with certain obstacles when I shoot. I found I'd forget about it when I was running and gunning. I would go to push the barrel through a window slot and just end up whacking the fore grip on the bottom of window as I was moving from target to target. Over all I ended up taking it off and running the rest of the match bare, so far haven't had a problem I think it all goes back to what ever feels comfortable to you is what I would go with. So if that is going with a hand stop so you don't touch the hot barrel or a fore grip then go for it.
 
runawaygun762 said:
Now, the original reason I searched and found this topic; Does anyone here mount an angled fore grip or hand stop on their competition rifle to provide consistent hand placement, or is it better to have a naked fore end to be able to change hand placement for different firing positions?
Hand placement becomes consistent with practice. Doesn't seem to take much practice, actually. I've got a QD mount on my handguard for slinging, and thought I might also use it for an index point. In actual use I end up with my hand right behind it where it would be anyway, not touching it, so it made no difference. I think a VFG would be of use if you had a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel and a long handguard, to provide an index point that offers support-hand reprieve from muzzle blast.

In any case, a VFG should be mounted back a bit from the end of the handguard so you can shoot through ports and VTAC walls more easily, i.e. resting the handguard in the slot in the wall through which targets are being engaged.
 
Those comments were kind of what I was thinking, but it's good to see other articulate it so well. I've been running a stock Bushmaster M4gery with standard rails and all, just to keep proficient with my issued rifle. Now that I'm an old, crusty instructor at the MP schoolhouse and I'm close to retiring, I made the commitment to gun games and bought a Stag 3G. That 15" hand guard is certainly different. I'll stay nekked until experience with the gun leads me to something different. Thanks.
 
I've found that anything mounted on the end of your handguard can be detrimental. I had a rail cover on my rifle last weekend at the big ProAm. The only reason it was there was to show off a sponsors logo. Well I went prone on the only stage we got to shoot long range rifle in the prone position and the damn rail cover kept getting me hooked into the barricade I was up against. I had 3 easy shots on 10" steal at 200-300 and I missed 5 damn times. If I hadn't' had that elephant dung on my rifle I could have finished 2nd instead of 3rd. My suggestion is to learn how to shoot your rifle with a clean handguard. I even removed my offset front site post for that stage.
 
Jesse Tischauser said:
I've found that anything mounted on the end of your handguard can be detrimental. I had a rail cover on my rifle last weekend at the big ProAm. The only reason it was there was to show off a sponsors logo. Well I went prone on the only stage we got to shoot long range rifle in the prone position and the damn rail cover kept getting me hooked into the barricade I was up against. I had 3 easy shots on 10" steal at 200-300 and I missed 5 damn times. If I hadn't' had that elephant dung on my rifle I could have finished 2nd instead of 3rd. My suggestion is to learn how to shoot your rifle with a clean handguard. I even removed my offset front site post for that stage.
If it was a I <3 Kalani Laker guard you wouldn't have that problem.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. After giving it a shot on my rifle, realized I would stick with what I know since my handguard isn't long enough for me to reach all the way out. Good luck on the dildo idea, I think I'll pass on that piece of gear.
 
I use my verticle grip as a hand stop, not so much for consistant hand placement as much as rearward pressure. I also like the fact that I can push the rifle forward on some barriers so that the vert grip rests on it and locks it into place for stability on some of the longer shots. It did get in the way at 1st when trying to hold the rifle on the sides of barriers, but I got used to it. I shoot Open and my vert grip is a gripod. Mine is not all the way out on my rail either, it's about 2/3 out there.

I will say that I am in the minority at matches. You don't see many vert grips, but I do like mine.
 
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