please comment on Glock build

MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
About to send my G35 off for some work:

$80 Dawson magwell
$150 glocktriggers.com Edge trigger
$210 texture and double undercut frame
$40 remove finger grooves
$120 Dawson adjustable sights
$20 extended mag release button
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$620

Slide work is basically like:
$70 side cuts
$70 45 degree muzzle cut
$40 cerakote afterwards
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$180

Well, that's $800. Is this the thing to do? I saw multiple used G34's today that were modded, they were asking $800 for the entire thing. I sold a 1911 to fund this but it will cost twice what I got out of it. I want to do it, but it almost seems like a bad investment, plus I'm not entirely sure that all of these are legal for all sports. I'd be ok for limited USPSA but what about IDPA? Even the grip texture will bump me out of the stock service pistol class, and the side cuts are illegal for everything. Not sure what to do, just want a nice blaster for 3-gun more than anything but local matches are IDPA. I just keep thinking that if I took the money I'd spend on this plus what I could sell the G35 for, I could just about have a 2011. Not even sure if that's the thing to do or not. I have lost a ton of money customizing crap so I'm skeptical that I'm repeating the same financial mistakes.
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all that work in a Glock moves you to an IDPA division that runs against a lot of 9mm 1911's and a few hold outs who still shoot DA/SA guns. A couple of things you want to do probably are not even legal mods for IDPA. IDPA rules only allow very limited mods on stock pistols compared to USPSA rules.... and to tell the truth most IDPA stages would not merit the "advantages" of the slickest "open" guns we see in the other games. For $500 and a set of better sights you can shoot IDPA (and be very competitive) with a stock 17 or 19
 
Dude it's your piggy bank do what makes ya happy! just giving you opinions BUT one thing I can offer is make sure the Indian is up to the task of putting the arrow where it should go cause with a slick looking bow it's sorta expected :) that's why I keep my bow ugly!

If you get the work done pictures will be needed! good luck to you and your choices. Later,

Kirk
 
Jeff said:
all that work in a Glock moves you to an IDPA division that runs against a lot of 9mm 1911's and a few hold outs who still shoot DA/SA guns. A couple of things you want to do probably are not even legal mods for IDPA. IDPA rules only allow very limited mods on stock pistols compared to USPSA rules.... and to tell the truth most IDPA stages would not merit the "advantages" of the slickest "open" guns we see in the other games. For $500 and a set of better sights you can shoot IDPA (and be very competitive) with a stock 17 or 19
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I've about given up on the idea that I'll be IDPA legal with anything I'd want for 3-gun, they have silly rules. I mean, they literally measure how much space is in between your gun and your gut, regardless of how fat you and the gun are. You can have aggressive grip tape, but not permanent stipple. You can have a small aftermarket magwell, but you can't sand down the factory opening a bit. It's a stupid endeavor to try to adhere to that mess.

It just happens to be the one action based shooting sport that only takes a 20 mile drive and I figured I needed the practice. But even if I do that, I have an FNX-40 that would be great for it, it's pretty good in the stock configuration, mostly just a little short, but it has a decent single/double action trigger, I already have extra mags, the magwell is very nice for a stock one, and it has some decent Trijicon night sights. It's my home defense gun anyway. At this point I just want to build a 3-gun rig and hope that it is legal for USPSA "limited".
 
MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
I've about given up on the idea that I'll be IDPA legal with anything I'd want for 3-gun, they have silly rules. I mean, they literally measure how much space is in between your gun and your gut, regardless of how fat you and the gun are. You can have aggressive grip tape, but not permanent stipple. You can have a small aftermarket magwell, but you can't sand down the factory opening a bit. It's a stupid endeavor to try to adhere to that mess.

It just happens to be the one action based shooting sport that only takes a 20 mile drive and I figured I needed the practice. But even if I do that, I have an FNX-40 that would be great for it, it's pretty good in the stock configuration, mostly just a little short, but it has a decent single/double action trigger, I already have extra mags, the magwell is very nice for a stock one, and it has some decent Trijicon night sights. It's my home defense gun anyway. At this point I just want to build a 3-gun rig and hope that it is legal for USPSA "limited".
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Not to belabor the point... IDPA (as a mission statement) is not an equipment game. Carry guns in carry gear. If you look at the game fairly and have studied many match results- the best shooters still win the match on time and hits. I agree... for some people running a 40 round stage in spandex with football shoes is more fun.....

Measuring holster offset? Sure- If a shooter follows the rules and runs a "street" holster why would he give up advantage to a Speed Rig and a big offset holster?
 
We don't have USPSA around here (I wish we did) but I shoot IDPA to practice my pistol shooting skills. Our local club is lenient on the rules for non-IDPA members. I frequently use my 3gun belt and DOH holsters. Some of the old guys scoff, but then so does the trap club when I show up with a 12rd tube hanging off my Vinci.

I found an excellent deal on a lightly used 9mm Eagle, and jumped on the 2011 bandwagon yesterday. As much money as I threw at building my 17L, I could have started out with this Eagle and saved myself
$1200 or so. Like others have said, it's your money, do with it as you please. If money isn't an issue, or even if it is, my money is on the 2011.
 
RigPig said:
Like others have said, it's your money, do with it as you please. If money isn't an issue, or even if it is, my money is on the 2011.
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http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/STI-50-Tactical-SS-9-Stocked-Item-P2773.aspx

$1,599. I could easily have about that much tied up in the damn Glock. To be honest I just sold my first 1911 to fund this 3-gun build so maybe I wouldn't feel like a cheap whore that killed off my first love if I went with this platform. With this I could just get a holster and rock it.

I didn't say anything before but that's kind of why I got cold feet with the Glock, my first 1911 is partially funding it. I have been feeling like it was a waste, just didn't feel right. The Glock would be cool but they don't exactly make my heart melt.
 
The Antichrome said:
Just curious, where is "here" ?
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I live 20mi south of Hays, KS. Closest range is an hour away, Central Kansas Prairie Shooters, near Ellsworth. Also shoot 3gun at Hutchinson at Central Kansas Gun Club.
 
man, you've been beating this horse for quite a while now.

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=186389

pick one and practice already :)

I have probably close to $900 in my g34 and I like how the gun shoots. I am much better with it than I was with a tricked out M&P. I am going to run the g34, and a g17 I just got, until my abilities as a shooter surpass what the gun is capable of doing. Which in all reality means I'll probably run them until the frames fall apart.

Do I expect to ever get my money back out of the Glock? Hell no. Do the changes that I've paid for make the gun better than stock, for me? Yes, absolutely.

I'd love an SVI, but with my abilities that will not make any difference in how I do in stages but sure as hell would put me out a lot more $$$.
 
This last RockCastle club meet the fastest time was done with what I think is a stock M&P. You could give me a 2011 and give that guy a slingshot and I still wouldn't win.

^^^ this is a quote you made on enos about this same topic.
What you're saying is that the guy who practices more has a better chance of winning no matter the equipment, so get some ammo for that glock and practice practice practice.
Done... and in the words of JCarpenter... Boom!!!
 
man, you've been beating this horse for quite a while now.

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=186389

pick one and practice already :)
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Yep. Like I said earlier, I made a conscious decision to go with the Glock. I had given up on a 2011 for now until I added everything up. Was wondering what a different crowd thought about that though. I was supposed to be shipping it off right about now.

At this point its just a matter of thinking maybe that is dumb in terms of being a bad investment. Some local pros basically recommended that if I do go with the Glock, that I do certain things to it. That sounded cool until I actually added it all up and it was over $600. Even without the fancy slide cuts, if I get a conversion barrel, 9mm mags, base plates, and holster, along with these mods such as trigger, stipple, sights, magwell... I will have $1,700 in this Glock setup if I do the recommended mods. Just got sticker shock at the last minute. That's a lot of money for something that will immediately be worth half that at best, and that's supposed to be what I'm settling with due to not wanting to spend $2K on a 2011 ($1700 eagle + $200 mags + $100 holster)? It's simply not rational and I'm trying to make sense of that.

Done... and in the words of JCarpenter... Boom!!!
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Yes that advice is making more sense by the minute. I'm just going to have to dumb down the build and live with certain imperfections. Sights and a cheap trigger spring pack and maybe some skateboard tape then just shoot .40 major in 3-gun for awhile as silly as that sounds. I'll get a 9mm STI at a later date.
 
MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
I'm just going to have to dumb down the build and live with certain imperfections. Sights and a cheap trigger spring pack and just shoot .40 major in 3-gun for awhile as silly as that sounds. I'll get a 9mm STI at a later date.
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There you go. An epiphany.
 
MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
Yep. Like I said earlier, I made a conscious decision to go with the Glock. I had given up on a 2011 for now until I added everything up. Was wondering what a different crowd thought about that though. I was supposed to be shipping it off right about now.

At this point its just a matter of thinking maybe that is dumb in terms of being a bad investment. Some local pros basically recommended that if I do go with the Glock, that I do certain things to it. That sounded cool until I actually added it all up and it was over $600. Even without the fancy slide cuts, if I get a conversion barrel, 9mm mags, base plates, and holster, along with these mods such as trigger, stipple, sights, magwell... I will have $1,700 in this Glock setup if I do the recommended mods. Just got sticker shock at the last minute. That's a lot of money for something that will immediately be worth half that at best, and that's supposed to be what I'm settling with due to not wanting to spend $2K on a 2011 ($1700 eagle + $200 mags + $100 holster)? It's simply not rational and I'm trying to make sense of that.


Yes that advice is making more sense by the minute. I'm just going to have to dumb down the build and live with certain imperfections. Sights and a cheap trigger spring pack and maybe some skateboard tape then just shoot .40 major in 3-gun for awhile as silly as that sounds. I'll get a 9mm STI at a later date.
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Build you glock up the way you want it shoot it have fun and keep it forever then resale does not matter. Or buy a used one thats already build and let the original owener take the hit. My 2 cents-have fun shooting. Happy New Year Everybody!!
 
Or buy a used one thats already build and let the original owener take the hit.
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This sums up my fear though, that whatever I do to mine I'll outgrow it quickly and be the original owner taking a hit like I see so many other people doing. I have already made multiple decisions that I consider to be financial mistakes while trying to get into this sport and am afraid of continuing to make more, that's why I flip flop so much. :) Not trying to tick anybody off.
 
MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
Not trying to tick anybody off.
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I don't think you're ticking anybody off, but by starting at least 2 identical threads on 2 different forums that both end up going in circles, probably causes some members some frustration. You seem to be seeking some sort of affirmation one way or the other. You got similar answers on both threads. It comes down to what you want to do, it's your money.
 
I don't think you're ticking anybody off, but by starting at least 2 identical threads on 2 different forums that both end up going in circles, probably causes some members some frustration. You seem to be seeking some sort of affirmation
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I think the proper word would be "consensus". That's what's confusing to me. I've got one group saying run the Glock but mod the hell out of it, and right about the time I decide to do that I got another group saying that's dumb and to sink it in a 2011 instead, then another saying both are dumb and to run the Glock but keep it pretty stock.

Then there's the group saying 9mm in 3-gun is the only way to fly, and another saying once I get into reloading, .40 is the cat's ass due to loading minor, so don't switch. I keep expecting a consensus on what the right answer is but there doesn't seem to be one and I'm afraid to start sinking money into something I might regret.

Like I said before, the only thing that seems to make sense at this point is to run the G35 fairly stock with minimal mods for now then get a pimped out 9mm STI in the future while keeping the Glock.

And I apologize about the two different threads but there seems to be more 3-gunners here and more USPSA guys on Enos, plus this didn't really start out the same, was mainly wanting feedback on the Glock mods I chose, didn't intend for it to turn into a Glock vs. 2011 thing again.
 
In regards to going in circles, what's confusing is conflicting advice from actual pros.

part of Patrick Kelley's spirited response to the question:
"Glock's and Smith's will do everything you'll ever need for 3-Gun but once anyone has it in their head that somethings else is better...it is."


one of Jesse's responses to whether to do nothing but get a match grade Glock barrel in another thread here:
"Stock barrel. Save the $100-200 for the STI you will need eventually."


out of a group of semi-local pros and well known gunsmiths, one pro and one gunsmith said to stop what I'm doing immediately and go straight to an STI. Two pros and one gunsmith said keep my glock but mod it.


I guess it really is just whatever I feel like doing with there being no right answer as to what works the best, only personal preference. Apologize if I wasted anybody's time.
 
MetropolisLakeOutfitters said:
In regards to going in circles, what's confusing is conflicting advice from actual pros.

part of Patrick Kelley's spirited response to the question:
"Glock's and Smith's will do everything you'll ever need for 3-Gun but once anyone has it in their head that somethings else is better...it is."


one of Jesse's responses to whether to do nothing but get a match grade Glock barrel in another thread here:
"Stock barrel. Save the $100-200 for the STI you will need eventually."


out of a group of semi-local pros and well known gunsmiths, one pro and one gunsmith said to stop what I'm doing immediately and go straight to an STI. Two pros and one gunsmith said keep my glock but mod it.


I guess it really is just whatever I feel like doing with there being no right answer as to what works the best, only personal preference. Apologize if I wasted anybody's time.
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You won't be able to find a straight answer from anyone because this is a matter of personal preference. Not all pros shoot 2011s. Not all 2011 shooters are pros. Many of your statements sound like you're leaning towards the 2011 platform. If all that's holding you back is finances, shoot the G35 or even the FNX until you can save up for an STI. No one but your wife can tell you what to do with your money. All you can do is take the plethora of good advice from the 5 pages of this thread and the one on benos, combine them, weigh the pros and cons of each, and choose which gun that'll give you the most enjoyment.
 
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