New Form 4473

[Burk Cornelius]

FFL's already know about the new form, but what do the rest of you think about the new Form 4473 and in particular the new Question 10a?

• Hispanic
• Non-Hispanic

New Form 4473

 

[benjamin-benjamin]

FFL's already know about the new form, but what do the rest of you think about the new Form 4473 and in particular the new Question 10a?

• Hispanic
• Non-Hispanic

New Form 4473

personally i don't think it should be on there... i also refuse to answer what race i am when i have to fill out job applications...

 

[foghorn918]

... i also refuse to answer what race i am when i have to fill out job applications...

Me too, I'm to slow and fat to race.

 

[Burk Cornelius]

I never liked the "race" question but wonder why they felt the need to not only add "Hispanic", but to make a whole new section for it (10a)?

 

[benjamin-benjamin]

I never liked the "race" question but wonder why they felt the need to not only add "Hispanic", but to make a whole new section for it (10a)?

who knows, i won't say how i really feel (because it would be a 1,000 word post) but our nation has long way to go on race issues. Even simple questions like these have impacts. They did a study on verbal/math tests where they took 2 groups and with one group they just took the test, the next group had to specify their race, the group that had to specify race before the test did significantly worse (African Americans).. There are numerous other studies that confirm the same thing... (yes, they are all peer reviewed!! joke from another thread). i better stop here.....

 

[Matt1911]

Dumb

 

[45recoil]

Id be more inclined to answer if they had the option of "both". Until then I have to chose, and ill be wrong either way.

Its dumb but certainly will not detor me from buying another gun.

 

[jtischauser]

Doesn't it already ask for your race?

 

[Burk Cornelius]

who knows, i won't say how i really feel (because it would be a 1,000 word post) but our nation has long way to go on race issues. Even simple questions like these have impacts. They did a study on verbal/math tests where they took 2 groups and with one group they just took the test, the next group had to specify their race, the group that had to specify race before the test did significantly worse (African Americans).. There are numerous other studies that confirm the same thing... (yes, they are all peer reviewed!! joke from another thread). i better stop here.....

Dumb

Benjamin needs 1000 words: Matt needs 1

 

[Burk Cornelius]

Doesn't it already ask for your race?

Yes, that's what stumps me. "Race" is already on there. Now there is another question for "Ethnicity" and those choices are Hispanic or non-Hispanic.

What's the difference in race and ethnicity?

 

[jtischauser]

Benjamin needs 1000 words: Matt needs 1

Some guys are much better at getting their point across, lol!

Yes, that's what stumps me. Race is already on there. Now there is another question for "Ethnicity" and those choices are Hispanic or non-Hispanic.

What's the difference in race and ethnicity?

My great great great grandfather was from Spain. I guess I'll answer Yes.

 

[Scott Hearn]

I only need 6 words and they apply to the whole form.

It's a crock and it stinketh.

 

[Iggie]

Wonder if they star denying for that question... it shouldn't have anything to do with purchesing or owning a firearm.

 

[poopgiggle]

personally i don't think it should be on there... i also refuse to answer what race i am when i have to fill out job applications...

I never liked the "race" question but wonder why they felt the need to not only add "Hispanic", but to make a whole new section for it (10a)?

who knows, i won't say how i really feel (because it would be a 1,000 word post) but our nation has long way to go on race issues. Even simple questions like these have impacts. They did a study on verbal/math tests where they took 2 groups and with one group they just took the test, the next group had to specify their race, the group that had to specify race before the test did significantly worse (African Americans).. There are numerous other studies that confirm the same thing... (yes, they are all peer reviewed!! joke from another thread). i better stop here.....

I only need 6 words and they apply to the whole form.

It's a crock and it stinketh.

Wonder if they star denying for that question... it shouldn't have anything to do with purchesing or owning a firearm.

This is my favorite gun forum.

 

[Wormydog1724]

It doesn't bother me. I must be racist.

 

[mike cyrwus]

I thought the same thing, but its not a PC thing as much as it is an info thing.

As far as looks; Sammy sosa is quite a bit different looking than Seve ballesteros.

 

[dennishoddy]

From what i understand, As far as the race question on job applications, it's there so that employers can meet government mandated race quotas.
I always check native American.
Hell, I was born here, doesn't that make me a native to this country?

 

[benjamin-benjamin]

From what i understand, As far as the race question on job applications, it's there so that employers can meet government mandated race quotas.
I always check native American.
Hell, I was born here, doesn't that make me a native to this country?

you are correct.. but i still disagree with it..

 

[Scott Hearn]

From what i understand, As far as the race question on job applications, it's there so that employers can meet government mandated race quotas.
I always check native American.
Hell, I was born here, doesn't that make me a native to this country?

That's one of my peeves. At a former employer in manufacturing, HR had to provide yearly staffing reports that were nothing more than racial breakdowns.

How many "minority" applicants?
How many did you hire?
And a lot of others BS questions along these lines.

Bottom line was you had better have the politically correct ratio of minorities or the EEOC would come knocking and you had better have good answers or a large checkbook. You tell me, what's this practice called again?

 

[poopgiggle]

I thought the same thing, but its not a PC thing as much as it is an info thing.

As far as looks; Sammy sosa is quite a bit different looking than Seve ballesteros.

Assuming that this is supposed to combat cartels buying guns in the US, it's also not that hard to pay a white guy to buy the guns for you.

Also there are a lot of really white-lookin Messkins out there.