Living in NY just got way worse.

jhenke

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I'm on Long Island, high taxes, overcrowding, shitty gun laws and no drag strip.

Now my police state has turned into Nazi Germany. did you guys see the new gun laws? 7 rounds max in a grandfathered in 10 round magazine? Who wrote that, a 9 year old? Bad enough I couldnt buy a new 30 rounder before. Now I have to sell my prebans before they are considered a felony to have one. This place sucks.
 

argyle64

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Leave before they block all roads leading out and you're stuck in Nazi New York.
 

Scott Hearn

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3 gun in NY is officially history.

Chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows:
38 22. "Assault weapon" means

a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least one of the following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of he weapon;
(iii) a thumbhole stock;
(iv) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by
the non-trigger hand;
(v) a bayonet mount;
(vi) a flash suppressor, muzzle break, muzzle compensator, or
threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, muzzle break,
or muzzle compensator;
(vii) a grenade launcher; or

(b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least one of the
following
characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a thumbhole stock;
(iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by
the non-trigger hand;
(iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of seven rounds;
(v) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

(c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least one of the following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a thumbhole stock;
(iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by
the non-trigger hand;
(iv) capacity to accept an ammunition magazine that attaches to
the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
(v) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender,
flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(vi) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the non-trigger hand without being burned;
(vii) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol
is unloaded; or
(viii) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun
or firearm;
(d) a revolving cylinder shotgun;
(e) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a
semiautomatic pistol or weapon defined in subparagraph (v) of paragraph (e) of
subdivision twenty-two of section 265.00 of this chapter as added by
chapter one hundred eighty-nine of the laws of two thousand and
otherwise lawfully possessed pursuant to such chapter of the laws of two
thousand prior to September fourteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four;
(f) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic
pistol or weapon defined in paragraph (a), (b) or (c) of this
subdivision, possessed prior to the date of enactment of the chapter of
the laws of two thousand thirteen which added this paragraph;
(g) provided, however, that such term does not include:
(i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated
by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (B) has been rendered
permanently inoperable; or (C) is an antique firearm as defined in 18
U.S.C. 921(a)(16);
(ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable
magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
(iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five
rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; or
(iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate
thereof, specified in Appendix A to 18 U.S.C. 922 as such weapon was
manufactured on October first, nineteen hundred ninety-three. The mere fact
that a weapon is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to mean
that such weapon is an assault weapon;
(v) any weapon validly registered pursuant to subdivision sixteen-a
of section 400.00 of this chapter. Such weapons shall be subject to
the provisions of paragraph (h) of this subdivision;
(vi) any firearm, rifle, or shotgun that was manufactured at
least fifty years prior to the current date, but not including replicas
there-
S. 2230

Here is the source:
http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/S2230.pdf
 

dennishoddy

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Wall said:
I would move

Its a great thought for us.
People are so ingrained in their jobs, home, etc that they can't/won't move.

They have been in a job with great seniority, nice home, family in the area, and a retirement looming.

I feel so sorry for these folks.

They are slaves to their destiny.
 

Mitch Rapp

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Well, you just get to test drive what we will all be living with soon. Maybe not next week, or next year, but it's coming.


I regret not being able to pass on to my children what I inherited. Depending on what the "Dear Leader" does tomorrow, and how it is responded to, we may as well be in a Monarchy. Do you really think he will just give up his power in 4 years? sorry guys, we had our chance, not to reverse course, but at least to slow it down. Now it's full throttle, next stop tyranny.
 

jhenke

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Yeah, I am stuck here. 23 years in a state pensioned job with 13 to go. Family. Easy to wanna leave, hard to really do.

I am curious how Obama's laws pan out. Cant come close to NY. Too much push back in the rest of the country. I thought NY's laws wouldnt change much because they were already so bad. My bad.
 

Mattyvip

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As a previous NYer (upstate area) I feel ya'lls pain. Luckily while there all of my gear was preban (thanks to my old man) I live in MT where it dosn't matter now but it's really shitty what they did and the way they did it. Just my $.02
 

Corey

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Does anyone know the last time somebody was killed with a bayonet that was attached to a rifle? There are lots of Mosin-Nagant rifles out there.
I know I have enjoyed the last two years living in Oklahoma, I told my wife in the beginning I know this is expensive but there are great matches all over, bullets are affordable, people to carpool with and I have the time & ability. The opportunity to shoot these matches may be a small window and I didn't want to look back and say I wish I would have tried 3-gun, USPSA or long range.
Good Luck in New York
maybe airsoft will take off
 

Mattyvip

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Corey, The problem isn't bayonets or guns or ARs or AKs or handguns or anything. The problem isn't even that the gun grabbers are stupid, and lack common sense (ok well the media does but tahts a whole different topic). The problem is the gungrabers want to take your guns because then you can't defend yourself against a tyranical govt. They know that guns make this country safer and gun violence in the US is extremely low. All the stats, logic, and common sense don't matter to them, they have their agenda and thats the end of it.
 

Corey

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Mattvip,
I understand and agree with you.
On a personal level I do not feel the police should be better armed than the citizens that are calling them. If the police need high cap magazines to deal with people that have no respect for the law then it should be obvious that I need to be armed with hicap magazines when the police are 20 min away. That is just me ranting
 

poopgiggle

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The SAF has got to be all over this.

Not a lawyer, but IIRC Heller protected guns "in common use" for self-defense. There is no way that they can make the case that restricting magazines to 7 rounds isn't an effective ban on semi-automatic handguns, which are probably the most common self-defense weapon.
 

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