KFOR Channel 4 OKC The Rant on Open Carry

[Adam Striegel]

Deputy. They have a liscense to carry.

Yeah I know, but I don't ... I just meant that he's a gun guy, so we're always going back and forth with our new toys to show them off. I guess everyone just knows us well enough to not care.

 

[Iggie]

Have you read the current laws? Or the changes? There are ways to move a firearm legally. In the open in public. But not what's considered open carry as in for self defense.

 

[jtischauser]

How can that be? If I'm hunting and have a sidearm with me in a holster that can't be illegal, can it?

 

[Iggie]

No its not. Its specifically allowed while hunting but not just for troting around your front yard for the garbage.

 

[Adam Striegel]

Have you read the current laws? Or the changes? There are ways to move a firearm legally. In the open in public. But not what's considered open carry as in for self defense.

Kind of ... I know without a permit you're not supposed to transport a firearm with ammo stored with the fire arm. So if you got a gun in the back seat, you need to have the ammo in the trunk or glove box. With a permit you can carry it loaded so long as the "average citizen" can't tell you have it. That's about the extend of my knowledge.

 

[dennishoddy]

How can that be? If I'm hunting and have a sidearm with me in a holster that can't be illegal, can it?

If you were in the act of hunting, you could legally open carry before this reg came about. Long gun and pistol. I've carried either a .44 mag, or more recently a 1911 on my hip, at the farm, OC while getting checked by Game Wardens, or chatting with some of the county deputy's that stop by on occasion.
Also, if one is hunting, and your in possesion of a CCL, with a long gun, before moving to the next field, deer stand, etc, you must have the chamber empty, but the magazine can remain loaded and inserted in the gun.
If you don't have a CCL, the magazine and chamber must be empty.

 

[jtischauser]

So what about my private range? Can I carry open or do I need my fishing vest?

 

[Iggie]

Kind of ... I know without a permit you're not supposed to transport a firearm with ammo stored with the fire arm. So if you got a gun in the back seat, you need to have the ammo in the trunk or glove box. With a permit you can carry it loaded so long as the "average citizen" can't tell you have it. That's about the extend of my knowledge.

Read them. Its the best way to know what is legal. If you have questions ask a lawyer or a DA.

JT that is covered in the law as target practice...or sporting purpose.

 

[jtischauser]

Kind of ... I know without a permit you're not supposed to transport a firearm with ammo stored with the fire arm. So if you got a gun in the back seat, you need to have the ammo in the trunk or glove box. With a permit you can carry it loaded so long as the "average citizen" can't tell you have it. That's about the extend of my knowledge.

Crap! I drive to work/my range daily with a truck full of guns and ammo really close to each other. I guess if I am getting pulled over (which happens a lot) I need to start throwing my ammo out the window so I don't get busted?

 

[dennishoddy]

If your private range is outside of any city regulations, and your practicing, I can't see it being a problem, but I'm not an LEO, nor an attorney.
If you don't have a CCL, You really should get one. Makes life a whole lot simpler when transporting.

 

[Iggie]

Crap! I drive to work/my range daily with a truck full of guns and ammo really close to each other. I guess if I am erring pulled over I need to start throwing my ammo out the window so I don't get busted?

LMAO! 90 plus ammo flying out the window.... that's a dangerous combo... might go off and knock some poor bandito off his bike......

 

[jtischauser]

Read them. Its the best way to know what is legal. If you have questions ask a lawyer or a DA.

JT that is covered in the law as target practice...or sporting purpose.

Laws are a lot like stage briefings. I don't read them, they read me. It was obvious at Ponca Saturday when the stage that would have have me the win was thrown out because we didn't shoot it correctly as per the stage description.

 

[Adam Striegel]

Crap! I drive to work/my range daily with a truck full of guns and ammo really close to each other. I guess if I am getting pulled over (which happens a lot) I need to start throwing my ammo out the window so I don't get busted?

I do that too and never thought about it. It seems like there's some kind of exception to the law if you're going to a gun range, but I can't remember for sure. I read all this stuff a couple months ago but my memory isn't all that great ... Was going to refresh after my SDA permit shows up. heh

 

[dennishoddy]

If your on your way to a match, target practice, hunting, gun show, etc, covers the exceptions.

 

[poopgiggle]

The only thing I'm worried about with OC is the MAH RIGHTS crowd.

Some people open carry because it's practical and/or comfortable, and they carry with discretion. They follow the "manners" Jeff was talking about.

Then there are the people who just want to wave their gun in everyone's face because MY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS DEAL WITH IT. To me these guys are like the shithead kid in class who sits during the Pledge of Allegiance just because he can. Their argument is usually something like "BUT IF YOU DON'T USE YOUR RIGHTS THEN THEY GET TAKEN AWAY" but we just got these rights recognized by the government and it seems to me that using this newfound freedom to be a jackass is a surefire way to get them taken away again.

 

[ChrisC]

Show me in statue where it is against the law to oc on private property in Oklahoma. I couldn't find it in title 21.

 

[Scott Hearn]

Show me in statue where it is against the law to oc on private property in Oklahoma. I couldn't find it in title 21.

Chris, I haven't read through all of this but it looks like it might. I also don't know the status of any appeals or if any laws have been passed that would supersede this.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=275944

 

[michaelclm]

If you support open carry/SB1733 call Gov. Fallin's office at 405-521-2342 and tell her so.

 

[Troy]

If you support open carry/SB1733 call Gov. Fallin's office at 405-521-2342 and tell her so.

The article in the paper said she was going to sign it. What would be nice is if she would make it go into affect immediately like Gov. Keating did with the vehicle inspections. I'm just itching to buy an OWB.

Also, be looking for the insightful story on OC tonight on News9 at 10:00.

 

[michaelclm]

The response from the folks answering the phone is "we're logging whether callers are for or against it. She has until Thursday to sign." Whether those calling in to complain have any effect or not I don't know. I know she said she'll sign it but it also can't hurt for her to be able to say "The vast majority of those who called my office supported my signing the Bill into law."