Fallin vetoes pro-gun bill

dennishoddy · May 1, 2014

poopgiggle said:
A Democrat in Oklahoma is a moderate Republican in pretty much any other state.

Yes. We are the reddest of the red states officially.

I'm proud to be part of it.

Scott Hearn · May 1, 2014

poopgiggle said:
A Democrat in Oklahoma is a moderate Republican in pretty much any other state.

Sad ain't it? Most republicans today would've been considered liberal democrats back in the day. By today's standard JFK would be the leader of the vast right wing conspiracy.

Scott Hearn · May 1, 2014

Our Vice Presidentâ€™s conversation with the Governorâ€™s staff centered around the NFA shall issue bill. This bill would require chief law enforcement officers (Sheriffs) to perform background checks on NFA applications for full-autos, silencers, etc. This is in response to the Presidentâ€™s illegal rewriting of federal law concerning procedures for acquiring these items. Their reason for vetoing this bill? The state cannot regulate a federal agency. Huh? Tell me how this bill regulates a federal agency. It regulates Chief LEOâ€™s in Oklahoma. The reality is by vetoing this bill, Governor Fallin has given the President exactly what he wants. Veto override efforts for these bills and the others the Governor vetoed on Tuesday will likely begin shortly.

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poopgiggle · May 1, 2014

Scott Hearn said:
Sad ain't it? Most republicans today would've been considered liberal democrats back in the day.

You have it backwards, unless you're talking about social issues. The Moderate Industrial State Republican used to thrive but now they're basically extinct.

Jonathan Waits · May 1, 2014

poopgiggle said:
A Democrat in Oklahoma is a moderate Republican in pretty much any other state.

Talk to anyone under 35 lately? Half of my graduating class is as left as left can be. The other half either don't care, or are just as Statist as the left, just on different sides of the issues.

michaelclm · May 1, 2014

Fallin. Pfft. I'm really starting to dislike that girl.

I've called my Senator, the Pro Tem, and Majority Leader. We'll see what happens. By the way, Mike Shultz's secretary doesn't want to hear about your displeasure over the veto.

Scott Hearn · May 1, 2014

poopgiggle said:
You have it backwards, unless you're talking about social issues. The Moderate Industrial State Republican used to thrive but now they're basically extinct.

Man where are you getting your political news? For fiscal habits you need look no further than John Boehner and Peter King for D.C. repubs, they are perfect examples of the D.C. GOP establishment.

For state level just look at the subject of this thread, Fallin. She's talked all conservative and stuff, and on certain things she actually has been. But...

Common Core
State Budget ("My way and no other. It's not negotiable")
$160 million capitol repair (same as above)
Funding of the Native American Cultural Center (no matter how you dice it, that's not conservative fiscal policy)

Sounds like Democrat stances to me. I could go on forever at both levels but you get the gist.

Scott Hearn · May 1, 2014

Michael Ray said:
Fallin. Pfft. I'm really starting to dislike that guy.

I've called my Senator, the Pro Tem, and Majority Leader. We'll see what happens. By the way, Mike Shultz's secretary doesn't want to hear about your displeasure over the veto

Care to expound? What did she say?

michaelclm · May 1, 2014

Just that. "Sir, if you have a problem with the Governor you can call HER office. I'm not interested in your feelings about her or her actions." more or less

RevoShooter · May 1, 2014

Jonathan Waits said:
Talk to anyone under 35 lately? Half of my graduating class is as left as left can be. The other half either don't care, or are just as Statist as the left, just on different sides of the issues.

Yep, most people our age are in it for the free stuff they perceive they're getting, yet are too ignorant to notice we're bleeding money, rather than keeping or earning more. They see things like raising minimum wage and think that's just great.

They fail to realize that if they make more to flip a burger, the less satisfactory burger flippers will be fired so the better ones can be afforded. That burger will cost more because every minimum wage job that gets the burger to their plate costs more, thereby accelerating inflation and negating any positive effects of a higher wage. They'll still be looking at their larger paycheck, thinking it made a positive difference without ever noticing the changes in the rest of the world around them.

A minimum wage job is that because it pays what the job is worth.

Back from my tangent, most "establishment" politicians seem to be all the same. If there's an r or a d by their name the difference is little anymore. The 2 party system was broken before it ever evolved into existence.

Scott Hearn · May 1, 2014

Michael Ray said:
Just that. "Sir, if you have a problem with the Governor you can call HER office. I'm not interested in your feelings about her or her actions." more or less

Sounds like she doesn't know that her boss can still play a part in passing what was vetoed or they aren't planning on it in the first place.

michaelclm · May 2, 2014

Michael Ray said:
Fallin. Pfft. I'm really starting to dislike that girl.

I've called my Senator, the Pro Tem, and Majority Leader. We'll see what happens. By the way, Mike Shultz's secretary doesn't want to hear about your displeasure over the veto.

Yesterday that said, "Fallin. Pfft. I'm really starting to dislike that guy."

Odd.

poopgiggle · May 2, 2014

Scott Hearn said:
Man where are you getting your political news? For fiscal habits you need look no further than John Boehner and Peter King for D.C. repubs, they are perfect examples of the D.C. GOP establishment.

For state level just look at the subject of this thread, Fallin. She's talked all conservative and stuff, and on certain things she actually has been. But...

Common Core
State Budget ("My way and no other. It's not negotiable")
$160 million capitol repair (same as above)
Funding of the Native American Cultural Center (no matter how you dice it, that's not conservative fiscal policy)

Sounds like Democrat stances to me. I could go on forever at both levels but you get the gist.

The fact that only hard-line free market fundamentalists are considered "real conservatives" now only reinforces my argument.