April 3-Gun match at 3 MR

Second... I shoot this match unmagnified and will most likely continue to do so, but I can say without a doubt that a magnifier would make spotting some of the targets a lot easier.

Especially when you're not the 1st or 2nd shooter and the paint is knocked off of them
 
Especially when you're not the 1st or 2nd shooter and the paint is knocked off of them

This! My only complaint about this match is that the smaller long range targets don't get painted often enough making them tough to spot sometimes. They start out the day in good shape but don't seem to get painted again during a match. They need to be freshened up with each new squad shooting at a minmum, this way things are much more even for all shooters.

I wanted to use this as an excuse for my scores last month but noticed that Jeremy and West managed to hit them all unmagnified, apparently it was all me. lol...
 
This! My only complaint about this match is that the smaller long range targets don't get painted often enough making them tough to spot sometimes. They start out the day in good shape but don't seem to get painted again during a match. They need to be freshened up with each new squad shooting at a minmum, this way things are much more even for all shooters.

I wanted to use this as an excuse for my scores last month but noticed that Jeremy and West managed to hit them all unmagnified, apparently it was all me. lol...

I don't think anyone woudl complain if one of us drove out there and painted them. Make note to throw a few cans of paint in the truck.
 
Anything but white.

Even painted sometimes there is no contrast.

During the winter or summer. But right now everything is so green I bet they're pretty easy to spot. If you paint them orange they migh be hard to distinguish from the fire hose they hang from.
 
I think he's picturing his black front post disappearing on a black painted target
 
or we could do match where we all get pepper sprayed before hand, that sound good to you...

So you also went to the University of Michigan in the 70's? Fall, the crisp air, the crowds in the football stadium, the leaves changing colors, the low fog of tear gas slowly drifting across campus ... ah, those were the days.
 
Except it doesn't.
I'm not following. We run the same optics (except yours is better, it doesn't miss :D ) and you prefer a black target? I dont think I've shot at a black target with the Pris. Curious to check it out. I know on a freshly painted white target, it stands out. I'd understand a black target with an Eotech or something illuminted...
 
I'm not following. We run the same optics (except yours is better, it doesn't miss :D ) and you prefer a black target? I dont think I've shot at a black target with the Pris. Curious to check it out. I know on a freshly painted white target, it stands out. I'd understand a black target with an Eotech or something illuminted...

Lol, it missed a lot the other day! So much that I pulled it all apart and cleaned my comp, etc.

The only time I have had an issue seeing the prismatic reticle against a target was at stage 5 at superstition, which I shot a black target at 325 yards around 7 pm. It had nothing to do with the scope and everything to do with the lighting conditions.

Jeremy the prismaric is illuminated but not even worth turning on during the day.

The edges of white targets wash out, sometimes you think you're on it when you aren't. If you're not going to use a backer (ahem, 3mr) paint it black!
 
or we could do match where we all get pepper sprayed before hand, that sound good to you...

I have no idea what this means but it sounds like a good idea. I'll pepper spray you as a test and we can see how it goes...

My point about painting the targets is that the first shooters of the day see a nicely painted target that is all one color and has some contrast against its background. All shooters after the first few get a gray and nearly camo'd target to look for. I don't know that I care what color they end up so much as they are the same (as much as is possible) for everyone. The backer that Chambers suggested seems like the easiest solution to me. Anything behind the plates for some contrast would be awesome.

I don't want to be seen as complaining about this match, I'm only offering a suggestion. The 3MR match is generally pretty awesome and the toughest one I shoot with my non-magnified gear. We ran into this same problem with long range targets at the Arkansas sectional 3 gun match last year, so it's not a new or isolated issue.
 
Black 10in target at 300+ yards in a bushy natural background....Id rather be pepper sprayed and have to shoot like that then shoot at targets you cant see, shooting at the 300 with irons at OKGC was bad enough nevermind those were white and I knew where the target was
 
Then get a acope.

Otherwise don't knock it til you try it.

It's about contrast...white on green or yellow or brown (grass, foliage, etc.) doesn't contrast much. Pretend you're colorblind. What's easier to see?

When's the last time you saw pitch black grass or dirt? I haven't.

Anyway I'll throw some pepper spray in the bag for the next match.
 
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