I just got my Mosin Nagant 91-30 and cleaned and assembled it. Has anyone had experience with these gus? I would like to mount a scope but don't want to mount it way up front and have a long eye relief scope. They sell kits with a mount and a turned down bolt but not sure how to switch it out. Or if someone knew where I could get a new bolt with a turned down handle that would be nice to keep the original bolt as one.
A few questions about Mosin Nagants
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fordnut
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I have one...but, sure am no expert....Here is a site that sells some stuff for reasonable prices: http://www.m1surplus.com/mosin%20nagant.htm
I don't know if you can find a bent bolt anywhere. I know that the bent bolt KIT is sold but don't know if anyine sell whole bolt already bent...
I love shooting mine...but...it kicks like a mule...
Steve
I don't know if you can find a bent bolt anywhere. I know that the bent bolt KIT is sold but don't know if anyine sell whole bolt already bent...
I love shooting mine...but...it kicks like a mule...
Steve
I have one that was beat bad. A previous owner had drilled 4 holes and ground on the receiver presumably to mount a side mounted scope. the fore stock and harware had all been removed. The front and rear sight were missing. The only redeeming feature was a Hex receiver dated 1895 and Finnish property marks meanig at some point it was captured by the Finns. I fixed it up into a pretty neat scout. I mounted a 2-7 x 32 long eye relief scope up forward on the rear sight base to avoid having to mess with bent bolts. I like the forward mount, its different and you can sight with both eyes open. I will post some pics soon.
lafayette gregory
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Hamman- Do you still have the 1891 stock? I sure ned one to restore a Bubba job.
mherman18- Before you scope it, spend some time shooting it. They are more accurate than you might think with iron sights.
3in groups at 100yards is not uncommon. Some even get better results!
mherman18- Before you scope it, spend some time shooting it. They are more accurate than you might think with iron sights.
3in groups at 100yards is not uncommon. Some even get better results!
lafayette gregory
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Hamman said:
Thanks for the info
Sandlapper
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A bent bolt for your Mosin can be found here for $47 - $55:
http://www.mosinnagant.net/Boltman/Boltman.html
OR the kit from ATI for scope mounting with the bent bolt mod for $55 (less from dealers) here:
http://www.atigunstocks.com/s-11-mosin-nagant.aspx
The kit isn't hard to install but having access to a drill press and drill press vice helps.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/Boltman/Boltman.html
OR the kit from ATI for scope mounting with the bent bolt mod for $55 (less from dealers) here:
http://www.atigunstocks.com/s-11-mosin-nagant.aspx
The kit isn't hard to install but having access to a drill press and drill press vice helps.
foxxtrot
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http://www.surplusrifle.com/russianmosi ... /index.asp
some good info.
look up Crufflers as well. They have a forum for us C&R collectors.
some good info.
look up Crufflers as well. They have a forum for us C&R collectors.
captmorgan
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Anything you ever wanted to know about Mosin-Nagant: http://7.62x54r.net/
If you go on their forum, be carefull about asking modification questions! These folks are purists. For been there done that questions try: http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/. Scroll down to the russian rifle section and open the 91/30 forum. Goodd luck and welcome to Mosinitis!
If you go on their forum, be carefull about asking modification questions! These folks are purists. For been there done that questions try: http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/. Scroll down to the russian rifle section and open the 91/30 forum. Goodd luck and welcome to Mosinitis!
Savage Sniper
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I had a local gunsmith install the turn down conversion with the scope mount the sits at the rear. Cost me about $100 + cost of kit if I remember right. It looked really nice but for the money ? Not sure I would do it again.
We sell many, many Mosin Nagants at gun shows in SC. We get to see many sporterized milsurps (just stating the facts as I see them). On both a personal and professional level I would suggest that if you are going to do something - do it right the first time.
I would NOT recommend buying the ATI bent bolt conversion kit (with any luck ATI is not a sponsor or moderator - :roll: ). The kit looks simple enough but I have seen too many examples of what not to buy and how not to do it. I think Jim the Boltman sells bent bolts (do a google search) and he has an outstanding reputation in the internet community.
If you do not want a long eye relief scope then get a gunsmith to D&T your reciever so that you can mount a traditional scope. We usually keep in stock scope mounts and a small selection of long eye relief scopes.
I would NOT recommend buying the ATI bent bolt conversion kit (with any luck ATI is not a sponsor or moderator - :roll: ). The kit looks simple enough but I have seen too many examples of what not to buy and how not to do it. I think Jim the Boltman sells bent bolts (do a google search) and he has an outstanding reputation in the internet community.
If you do not want a long eye relief scope then get a gunsmith to D&T your reciever so that you can mount a traditional scope. We usually keep in stock scope mounts and a small selection of long eye relief scopes.
Dave29461
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Bob at the Gun Doctor in Moncks Corner did a turn down bolt for my son's Nagant several years ago. He was pleased with the job and the price. He put a long eye relief scope on and shoots the legs off gnats with it.
biganimal
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there is a weaver style mount on the market that replaces the rear sight on the Nagant. pop the sight off plop the mount on and scope it up with a long eye relief scope. works good.takes five minutes to install
biganimal
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got me stumped also
fordnut
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Guy...that is called SPAM...
biganimal
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its no wonder people won't eat SPAM
Enjay
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We try to keep on top of the spam, but they're sneaky buggers.
If you don't mind my asking, weaver scope mounts are for mounting scopes that take a picatinny rail on to weapons that don't have picatinny systems?
If you don't mind my asking, weaver scope mounts are for mounting scopes that take a picatinny rail on to weapons that don't have picatinny systems?
biganimal
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Enjay said:
yup
ya can always tell an old timer cuz he will call it a weaver style mount every time
for 30 years or more thats what they were called, not pick-a-ninny........lol
Enjay
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Okay, I've been looking around and found a place that sells scope mounts that look interesting.
http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/
here's a video of someone installing their low mount scope
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CHBuiBkQlo[/youtube]
they also have a new side mount scope that doesn't require drilling on the gun, removing the rear sights or bending the bolt:
http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/Mosin_Nagant_Side_Mount.html
Looks promising!
http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/
here's a video of someone installing their low mount scope
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CHBuiBkQlo[/youtube]
they also have a new side mount scope that doesn't require drilling on the gun, removing the rear sights or bending the bolt:
http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/Mosin_Nagant_Side_Mount.html
Looks promising!
