zeroing with magnifier for limited

[gondo]

I love me some tac irons. I am wondering if anyone has ever used a magnifier to zero their red dot at 200 or 300? My initial though is that it isnt a good idea since you wont be shooting with it a match.... and im not slouch with my naked eye i shot a one inch group with my first 3 shot group at 200 today... but ive been thinking of rezeroing at 300 and it is hard to see paper at that distance.... 8 inch gong at 300 is no problem but being accurate on paper for groups ive found 250 is about my limit. Anyhow i will probably try this if i can find someone to let me borrow a magnifier but just wondering if anyone has tried this?

 

[drmitchgibson]

Do you have a spotting scope? Even a cheap one is extremely helpful. I got a cheap Gamewinner from Academy five years ago for checking hits from a MOSIN NAGANT! At fifty yards! Man, I was so not good at shooting.

In any case, now I use it in conjunction with Shoot'N'C targets. I can see hits at 300 with it. Barely, but it works. I just zeroed my Aimpont at 200 last week, but shot a bunch at 300 to make sure I knew the holdover.

 

[jtischauser]

I'm no red dot long range expert but your idea sounds like a good one. You gotta have a solid zero to shoot long distance rifle well.

The other option would be to find a target size that works perfectly with your dot size so you can cover it up perfectly or center it perfectly or whatever your eyes like when shooting for a zero.

 

[Squid]

This is the only reason I break my magnifier out now. I think it makes a difference. You could certainly use it if you where in the okc area.

 

[gondo]

Do you have a spotting scope? Even a cheap one is extremely helpful. I got a cheap Gamewinner from Academy five years ago for checking hits from a MOSIN NAGANT! At fifty yards! Man, I was so not good at shooting.

In any case, now I use it in conjunction with Shoot'N'C targets. I can see hits at 300 with it. Barely, but it works. I just zeroed my Aimpont at 200 last week, but shot a bunch at 300 to make sure I knew the holdover.

its not that kind of problem mitch, its not that i need to see my groups.. i just drive to do that... it is seeing the target with no magnification

 

[gondo]

I'm no red dot long range expert but your idea sounds like a good one. You gotta have a solid zero to shoot long distance rifle well.

The other option would be to find a target size that works perfectly with your dot size so you can cover it up perfectly or center it perfectly or whatever your eyes like when shooting for a zero.

I think you are right about the target size... a piece of copy paper that i print targets on is almost completely covered by a 1 moa dot at 200 to 225... which is probably why i have trouble past 250... i bet if i center a target on a square piece of poster board i can aim better, caz in reality that is what you are doing with a dot at long range to start with... thanks for the suggestion.

 

[TerryKendell]

Question: Does the Magnifier also increase the red size?

 

[drmitchgibson]

For 300 yards I use a huge Shoot'N'C target, this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2135119550/caldwell-orange-peel-target-12x18-self-adhesive-silhouette?cm_vc=ProductFinding

You can see the target and aiming area really well for 300 yards. Also, since it's large you can aim by centering the dot instead of using the dot to cover the center.

 

[gondo]

Question: Does the Magnifier also increase the red size?

man that is a great question, i have no clue... i have never looked through one

For 300 yards I use a huge Shoot'N'C target, this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2135119550/caldwell-orange-peel-target-12x18-self-adhesive-silhouette?cm_vc=ProductFinding

You can see the target and aiming area really well for 300 yards. Also, since it's large you can aim by centering the dot instead of using the dot to cover the center.

looks perfect thankyou

 

[gondo]

Question: Does the Magnifier also increase the red size?

read this to the bottom and it is confusing like anything on the internet, if the last post is correct it shouldnt matter with a 3x magnifier... i may call eotech lol

 

[Wall]

A 1 moa dot should only cover 3" of target @ 300yds. Do you have the brightness turned to the max where it is blossoming?

 

[gondo]

A 1 moa dot should only cover 3" of target @ 300yds. Do you have the brightness turned to the max where it is blossoming?

no i shoot with it as low as it goes unless im hosing... have you ever looked at a piece of copy paper at 200 using an eotech... what should be is not what is unless it is my eyes buy im 20 20 so i dont think its just me and i have 2 eotechs that are both the same so i dont think it is defective

 

[Wall]

My eyes are nowhere close to being good enough for T.I.

 

[Wall]

But to answer you initial question, it shouldn't matter if you zero with the magnifier & then shoot without. Write down your settings before you move your zero. If you don't hit with it after removing the magnifier, move your zero back to the original settings.

 

[gondo]

My eyes are nowhere close to being good enough for T.I.

yeah im about to turn 30 and to be honest things are not as clear as they were 2 or 3 years ago

 

[Wall]

yeah im about to turn 30 and to be honest things are not as clear as they were 2 or 3 years ago

Wait 'til you hit 40. I never wore glasses until 40. Then it seems like my vision went to elephant dung overnight. I could still see it all but the sharpness wasn't there due to astigmatism.

 

[technetium-99m]

My glasses correct my vision to better than 20/20. With my new Eotech the center dot appears to take up about 3/4 of the head box of a USPSA target at 300 yards.

I've found that target size/shape can help tremendously with group shooting and zeroing. You want enough of the target to peek out from behind your dot or reticle that you can easily center your aiming point on the target. For me and my Eotech a 2-3 MOA spot works well. With my old TR24 I used a target with vertical/horizontal lines that I could line up in the scope.

 

[gondo]

My glasses correct my vision to better than 20/20. With my new Eotech the center dot appears to take up about 3/4 of the head box of a USPSA target at 300 yards.

I've found that target size/shape can help tremendously with group shooting and zeroing. You want enough of the target to peek out from behind your dot or reticle that you can easily center your aiming point on the target. For me and my Eotech a 2-3 MOA spot works well. With my old TR24 I used a target with vertical/horizontal lines that I could line up in the scope.

Definitely will try that type target next range trup

 

[charger arms]

I had to get Rx sunglasses just to shoot with due to an astigmatism in my right eye. Dots look like a roadkill opossum without them. I always thought that the dots just sucked until I finally got my eyes checked. I still have almost perfect vision but the glasses make it "HD".

I am planning a TI carbine for next year. I will be using an Eotech and use the magnifier to help set the zero.


Also, I have found the Bullseye Camera system to be a great investment for dialing in your scope. I have sold a couple and the owners love them. I have used one of my customers and will be getting a "demo" model for use here.

 

[jtischauser]

I had to get Rx sunglasses just to shoot with due to an astigmatism in my right eye. Dots look like a roadkill opossum without them. I always thought that the dots just sucked until I finally got my eyes checked. I still have almost perfect vision but the glasses make it "HD".

I am planning a TI carbine for next year. I will be using an Eotech and use the magnifier to help set the zero.


Also, I have found the Bullseye Camera system to be a great investment for dialing in your scope. I have sold a couple and the owners love them. I have used one of my customers and will be getting a "demo" model for use here.

Tell me more about this bullseye camera please.