What kind of iron sight (AR)

samuelshoun · Jan 19, 2012

I'd like some better irons... I feel like I just can't acquire a fast sight picture no matter how much I practice with my current sights (folding BUIS, Troy I think).

These would get used in competition but I'd like them to be capable for a battle rifle too, if possible.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Sam

argyle64 · Jan 19, 2012

I have the flip up Troy sights and I love them. I've had them on both of my rifles. Other than that, I can't recommend you anything else. Sorry.

Wormydog1724 · Jan 19, 2012

Daniel defense front and carry handle for a rear. Or daniel defense for both. Or LMT for both. Or troy fixed sights for both. Or Troy folding sights for both. I don't see why the Troy folding sights wouldn't be good for a 'battle rifle' (?).

argyle64 · Jan 19, 2012

I had Troy's on my RRA rifle and I have them on my LMT Defender rifle. I love them!

Feegee · Jan 19, 2012

I have a extra set of the plastic magpul flip up sights you can try out if you want they are just sitting in my safe. There not the best but worth trying out

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Chambers · Jan 19, 2012

Wormydog1724 said:
Daniel defense front and carry handle for a rear. Or daniel defense for both. Or LMT for both. Or troy fixed sights for both. Or Troy folding sights for both. I don't see why the Troy folding sights wouldn't be good for a 'battle rifle' (?).

You would want an elevation wheel. I'd say the DPMS or LMT fixed rear.

FSB front, or clamp on JP FSB/gas block

technetium-99m · Jan 19, 2012

I'm unable to find fault with the Armalite clamp on front site. The DPMS removable rear is a quality part too. A nice set of irons for around 100 bucks.

Ksmirk · Jan 19, 2012

JP clamp on front and either a DPMS or LMT (what I'm running) on the rear, turn the front post down to .035"

this seems to work ok.

What barrel length are you shooting as sight radius with irons is where it's at. Later,

Kirk

samuelshoun · Jan 19, 2012

Wormydog1724 said:
I don't see why the Troy folding sights wouldn't be good for a 'battle rifle' (?).

They are great for that role, they seem nearly indestructible. I just have a hard time acquiring the sight picture fast with them and I haven't tried much else. So I'm wondering what other people are running and if those products can perform a dual "competition/fighting" rifle role.

samuelshoun · Jan 19, 2012

Kirk Smith (ksmirk) said:
What barrel length are you shooting as sight radius with irons is where it's at. Later,

For the competition rifle I'm building I'll run an 18" JP or Noveske barrel.

Wall · Jan 19, 2012

maybe a diopter rear sight with a more pistol type sight picture

Wormydog1724 · Jan 19, 2012

I like my Troy hk style front sight better than my troy m4 style front sight.

Ksmirk · Jan 19, 2012

I started with an 18" but I'm moving to a 20" barrel and placing the front sight out by the comp to get lot of real estate between the front and rear sights. Just for giggles try this, throw your rifle up like your going to shoot but don't pay any attention to the rear sight just look for the front post, funny thing about the peep sights is that your eye for some reason centers itself.

I know the stock front sight is WAY too thick for hitting anything but maybe a 55 gallon drum! Mr. Miller hooked me up with a .035" ( I think) front post and oh boy makes a hell of a difference. Try that little trick with ignoring the rear sight and see if it works, some folks it does others things don't work out for. Later,

Kirk

jtischauser · Jan 19, 2012

Have you considered the offset Dueck Defense sights?

Swifty · Jan 19, 2012

Jesse Tischauser said:
Have you considered the offset Dueck Defense sights?

If I run those off set sights with my tac scope will it put me in open class?

drmitchgibson · Jan 19, 2012

I was using YHM BUIS last year, and they were great sights, and still are. It's tougher to get used to the iron-sight sight-picture than the optical-sight sight-picture. It took a lot of pointing the gun around the house to get used to binocular sighting a rifle with iron sights, but it wasn't like I had to do it eight hours a day for weeks on end. I'd say look into different front sight posts. I changed to a KNS post from a set I got from Midway, and it improved my long-range shooting to the point were it was very comparable to optics.

gnnrsm8 · Jan 19, 2012

Jesse Tischauser said:
Have you considered the offset Dueck Defense sights?

$240 for iron sights..... F that! Need options for cheap ass's!

brandt9913 · Jan 19, 2012

Swifty said:
If I run those off set sights with my tac scope will it put me in open class?

No. Tac optics allows only one "optical" sight. Iron sights are not considered "optical". A scope and offset irons is ok at most matches. Since most 3 gun matches are outlaw, you will need to check the match rules to not get bumped to open.

Open guys usually have a scope and offset red dot on their rifles.

brandt9913 · Jan 19, 2012

Dave Bupp said:
$240 for iron sights..... F that! Need options for cheap ass's!

The cheapest offset sight I've seen is the JP short range off set. It's half the dueck sight, but it has a very short sight radius. I'm considering putting one on my JP-15, but I need to learn to shoot my rifle before I start adding a bunch of distractions.

http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPSRTS