What is the deal with the Oklahoma Rifle Association

[jtischauser]

Now that's hilarious :85:

I'm glad someone caught my humor.

 

[Pstmstr]

We caught your humor. Some day, you too can be a legend. Paul may need you to show him how to run and gun from a skooter before too much longer. .

 

[technetium-99m]

Ive heard a lot of good stuff about them but have never joined. If they helped kill open carry I'll have to get a member ship.

I've got to ask. What was it about open carry that you didn't like. Wording of the bill or something about it I have forgotten? I'm really working hard to suppress a gut response to someone who appears to be happy about and wants to support an organization that works to ensure that citizens are not allowed to take full advantage of the 2nd amendment.

 

[dennishoddy]

Who all remembers Dan Combs? Paul Abel was good friends with him and they both did shooting exhibitions, Paul in Dan Combs' place sometimes.

And yes, I've been through his class and I wouldn't think of messing with him even at his age. He's one of those that can kill you with his hands, gun, knife or any combination of the same. And he can have it done before you even know you are in trouble.

I was at a Dan Combs exibition that was put on at our SCHOOL! I can't imagine anybody getting to do this at current politicaly correct schools.

I am in no way dissing Mr Able, and acknowlege his skills, but the 2nd ammendment is what it is. Its the right of citizens of the United States to bear arms. He is not the only person on the board that advised the legislature to vote against it.
It actually went beyond just the ORA.
Keep in mind, That at the last vote, the Dems changed their vote. Ken Luttrel was our rep from Kay county. He lost his job at the next election despite his A+ rating from the NRA.
Okies vote with their intelligence, not just because of a rating.

 

[dennishoddy]

I've got to ask. What was it about open carry that you didn't like. Wording of the bill or something about it I have forgotten? I'm really working hard to suppress a gut response to someone who appears to be happy about and wants to support an organization that works to ensure that citizens are not allowed to take full advantage of the 2nd amendment.

They wanted training, a license from the state, and an age limit of 18 or close by.
Hell, we used to put our .22's on our handlebars, and ride through town to the river to plink at 11 years old in my day. Times have changed.

 

[Scott Hearn]

They wanted training, a license from the state, and an age limit of 18 or close by.
Hell, we used to put our .22's on our handlebars, and ride through town to the river to plink at 11 years old in my day. Times have changed.

That's basically what eventually passed the house only to be killed in the senate. The pretty much took the SDA law and removed every instance of the word "concealed". That's the nutshell version anyway and accomplished all of this.

 

[Scott Hearn]

I was at a Dan Combs exibition that was put on at our SCHOOL! I can't imagine anybody getting to do this at current politicaly correct schools.

I am in no way dissing Mr Able, and acknowlege his skills, but the 2nd ammendment is what it is. Its the right of citizens of the United States to bear arms. He is not the only person on the board that advised the legislature to vote against it.
It actually went beyond just the ORA.
Keep in mind, That at the last vote, the Dems changed their vote. Ken Luttrel was our rep from Kay county. He lost his job at the next election despite his A+ rating from the NRA.
Okies vote with their intelligence, not just because of a rating.

I had several conversations with a couple of board members and just a regular ORA non-board member.

The board members that I talked to were worried that if it passed, just about every business owner would make their premises a no weapons allowed affair. They were probably correct in that too, but I told them as long as they left the verbage about violating that alone (a misdemeanor trespass charge if you refuse to leave when told), that I was willing to take the chance on it.

The regular member was telling me about how every redneck was going to strap on his hogleg .44 magnum, or every wanna-be tactical timmy was gonna strap on a thigh rig with his Glock .40 in it and go strutting through town. I asked him why all the other states that have open carry don't have a problem with it, but he thought we would? He kind of replied that they do actually have problems with it. I said...really? You think the news media would actually pass up all these opportunities to finally prove that all the guntoters were causing all this mayhem? He didn't really wanna go any farther with it at that point. I told him not to worry, guvnuh Henry ain't gonna sign it anyway, and the legislature will breath a sigh of relief. Turned out Henry didn't have to veto that one thanks to the senate.

 

[dennishoddy]

The board members that I talked to were worried that if it passed, just about every business owner would make their premises a no weapons allowed affair. They were probably correct in that too, but I told them as long as they left the verbage about violating that alone (a misdemeanor trespass charge if you refuse to leave when told), that I was willing to take the chance on it.

My main issue with this mentality, is that none of the other states that allow open carry, Only 7 don't + the District of Columbia have not experienced the same penom that the ORA projects. Its almost the same "gunfights in the steets" objection that the ainti-gun political organizations use that ORA is using.
We don't need an anti_gun Wannabe in sheeps clothing to tell us our rights.
The 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution has already done that.