What Factory Ammo Do You Run In Your Carry Gun

Our senior instructor went to a ballistics workshop, they said it out performed the other rounds. I know of a guy that shot a cow point blank range in between the eyes with hornady critical defense out of a J frame and it did not penetrate the cows skull. After that i stopped carrying that in my j frame and went to the short barrel gold dots.

I think its a good round although I have never tested them on a human body... I tried once... but I missed...
 
ChrisC said:
Our senior instructor went to a ballistics workshop, they said it out performed the other rounds. I know of a guy that shot a cow point blank range in between the eyes with hornady critical defense out of a J frame and it did not penetrate the cows skull.
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What caliber was this? .38? I've got critical defense .357 mags in my ruger lcr. I'm pretty sure they'd penetrate!
 
ChrisC said:
Our senior instructor went to a ballistics workshop, they said it out performed the other rounds. I know of a guy that shot a cow point blank range in between the eyes with hornady critical defense out of a J frame and it did not penetrate the cows skull. After that i stopped carrying that in my j frame and went to the short barrel gold dots.

I think its a good round although I have never tested them on a human body... I tried once... but I missed...
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If that guy was shooting the .38 in that J frame, it's sadly inadequate.
That round will barely penetrate one side of a 55 gallon drum in a short barrel.
In high school, I worked in a packing house. We killed the cows with a .22 long rifle.
Bulls were killed with a .22 mag.
They dropped on the spot.
This is one of the reasons I'm always on a rant about a proper bullet that is properly placed.


 
Better rethink the auto glass tests Remington Golden Saber is the best of them through that!
 
That's not really that surprising on the cow skull. The skull is very thick between the eyes and where the forehead would be. Cows "wrestle" for dominance by butting their heads together. The place to drop a cow is at the back of the skull.

I've read some tests where Hornady critical defense failed to be up to snuff in pistol rounds. Though once a 9mm Federal HST failed to entirely scramble a calf's brain. The second was persuasive enough.

.45 cal gold dot through the ear of a hog will turn em right off.

Aaaaaaaannnnd....back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
custom loaded mercury filled hand loads! I saw it in a movie once, so it must work!

but in the winter I carry liquid nitrogen ice bullets, saw that one in a movie too!
 
I'm currently running Winchesters 9mm+P 124gr JHP Bonded rounds.

I've had to turn the lights out on a few cows and hog. Usually a .40 180gr FMJ from the little soft spot that is right at the base of the skull was way way over kill. If I had to hit the switch from the front on a cow I'm going with a 12ga slug. That damn skull be thick.
 
Zekernst said:
custom loaded mercury filled hand loads! I saw it in a movie once, so it must work!

but in the winter I carry liquid nitrogen ice bullets, saw that one in a movie too!
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LOL! We use Liquid Nitrogen at work. I'm pretty sure hollywood had that one wrong unless the gun was also -346°F and -320.44°F, so it wouldn't turn back into a gas.
 
I did just act as the recorder for a hornady demo at work the other day and the
tap stuff went thru the windshield pretty well.
 
Myth Busters did a segment on firing ice bullets and some other strange types. They were proven to not be effective ammo. :)
 
I realy don't feel like doing the research myself, does anyone have the skinny on the reduced recoil self defense ammo? I've been carrying it in my cw45 cuz it shoots so nice. I wonder how much I give up in effectiveness to have better control from a really light little pistol.
 
I've heard the low coil stuff can keep your gun from cycling correctly if you're using a strong spring. Helps stop over penetrating though.
 
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