DanielC25
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Count me in as soon as I get to OU next Spring. Please let me know if I can help out anyway. Also, what kind of sponsors are you looking for? I have some friends in the industry and may be able to help.
University of Oklahoma gun club
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deerslayer89
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Daniel,
Glad to hear you are interested. We are looking for sponsors for range gear, ammo, targets, and a place to shoot rifles at right now. We are also in the hunt for good condition .22LR rifles that we can raffle at Sgt. Everett's in Norman. All proceeds would benefit us. We cant really go wrong with sponsors so if you know anyone that might want to help us out have them email me with the subject ATTN: COURT at [email protected] and I will work something out with them. In the meantime if you havent already join our group on Facebook at facebook.com/ousfa Thanks for your interest!
Court
Glad to hear you are interested. We are looking for sponsors for range gear, ammo, targets, and a place to shoot rifles at right now. We are also in the hunt for good condition .22LR rifles that we can raffle at Sgt. Everett's in Norman. All proceeds would benefit us. We cant really go wrong with sponsors so if you know anyone that might want to help us out have them email me with the subject ATTN: COURT at [email protected] and I will work something out with them. In the meantime if you havent already join our group on Facebook at facebook.com/ousfa Thanks for your interest!
Court
deerslayer89
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Hey guys,
We are still alive and working hard here at OU. We are planning on having a shoot the week of March 22nd. We are working out the details but just figured I would keep you guys in the loop. Thanks for all of your support as well. I will let you know when we get all the final info sorted out.
We are still alive and working hard here at OU. We are planning on having a shoot the week of March 22nd. We are working out the details but just figured I would keep you guys in the loop. Thanks for all of your support as well. I will let you know when we get all the final info sorted out.
jtischauser
I'm addicted to kicking ass
What kinda shoot r u you shootin'?
studentfirearmsassociation
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Our first shoot is going to be at Sgt Everett's. Unfortunately because of lack of space with our quickly growing member number we have had to make it a student shoot only. We are also planning a fundraiser shoot at a large outdoor range. At our fundraiser shoot we will be selling tshirts, and hopefully meet a lot of you boomer shooter guys! The student shoot is going to be around the end of March and the fundraiser shoot date is still unknown. The dates are being established slowly because Court and I have been busy with midterm exams and haven't had time to do much promoting.
-Cody
-Cody
jtischauser
I'm addicted to kicking ass
Let us know if you need help with range officers or stage design and all that good stuff.
Posted and updated about 6 hours ago on Facebook
Student Firearms Association
REMINDER- the first shoot is Thursday at 6pm. You do not have to have a gun or safety training to shoot. We will have several guns for you to shoot. Email me if you are bringing your own gun. $5 gets all your targets, pizza, and safety training. Be at Sgt. Everett's at 6!
Student Firearms Association Also, if you want to be on our email list shoot us an email and we will add you.
So it should be on Thursday March 24th?
Student Firearms Association
REMINDER- the first shoot is Thursday at 6pm. You do not have to have a gun or safety training to shoot. We will have several guns for you to shoot. Email me if you are bringing your own gun. $5 gets all your targets, pizza, and safety training. Be at Sgt. Everett's at 6!
Student Firearms Association Also, if you want to be on our email list shoot us an email and we will add you.
So it should be on Thursday March 24th?
jtischauser
I'm addicted to kicking ass
Is this open to everyone?
DutchWrangler
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If it were open to anyone and I wasn't flying up to Canada come Thursday morning I'd show up since I'm a member at Sgt. Everitts too.
I am going the Range on Monday and Tuesday, don't think I could swing a third trip in the same week.
deerslayer89
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Hey guys, 'Officially'it is a member shoot, but if you show up at 6 at Sgt. Everetts...I mean I dont see a problem. Space will be limited but we would like to meet you guys. We are really excited about it and I hope to see a bunch of you guys there!
deerslayer89
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Thanks guys! We also have an article in the OU Daily today!
http://oudaily.com/news/2011/mar/24/student-gun-club-hold-first-meeting-gun-range/
http://oudaily.com/news/2011/mar/24/student-gun-club-hold-first-meeting-gun-range/
studentfirearmsassociation
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Update: We are in the midst of a funding battle with the school right now. The 400 student organizations at OU are allotted $750,000 every year and they decided to give us $100. Yes you read that right $100. Not even $1 per member. We are already one of the biggest groups on campus and we don't understand where the rest of this money is going but we intend to find out. More updates to come...
jtischauser
I'm addicted to kicking ass
Keep us posted on that.
deerslayer89
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Here is the email I sent to the OU Daily:
o the Editor,
I would like to bring to your attention an issue that my organization has with the UOSA Emergency Funding Committee. We recently started the Student Firearms Association, and since its conception on 11 February 2011, we have grown to include approximately 100 active student members. We contacted several people in the Student Affairs office and UOSA to see about getting funding for our events, and were told to apply for emergency funding through UOSA. On 17 March, after researching prices for supplies, we applied for $600 worth of emergency funding. By 22 March the UOSA Budget Committee had received our application and begun reviewing it. We held our first event on 24 March and my Vice-President and I payed out of pocket for most of the expenses. This cost us a combined total of $250, and we were unable to provide a fraction of the ammunition shot, meaning our members spent out of pocket to shoot. By 29 March we had not heard back from the Budget Committee so we emailed them from our Club account asking about any kind of follow up meetings, or any response in general. They responded to my Vice-Presidents personal email informing us to set up a meeting, which we scheduled for 3 April. After consulting with several student leaders and those involved in UOSA we spent approximately 5 hours computing prices for every cent we asked for, with a final total of $600.41. We remained conservative, hoping to receive this and help pay for some of the costs of our next planned shoot.
After waiting in the UOSA office, we saw several members of the budget committee come in late with several bags from Crossroads. Sean Bender called us in to our meeting and we were immediately informed that we were not allowed to purchase the supplies we requested funding for, due to state law. When I asked about what law forbade this purchase, no one in the room was able to answer. At one point it was brought up that it might fall under federal law, but again they were unable to offer any evidence to back their claim. As we had not been warned about this in the two weeks prior to this meeting, we were caught off guard but easily listed other things the money could be used for. Again, citing a law no one was actually able to show me, we were told that we could not do that and we should simply email another person for some clarification. While this in itself seems unacceptable, what I found most disturbing was the highly unprofessional behavior of the other members. During our meeting, several of the representatives we met with did not look up from their lunch, while several more simply went from looking at their lunch to their computer. Very few of my questions were answered, at least in any definitive way, and I left after spending 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon working for this, feeling as though I had completely wasted my time.
What bothers me most about this entire ordeal, is how this group of people, after seeming indifferent to my passion for this club and my hope for its success, could so arbitrarily dismiss everything I said with no evidence to back it. Having had our proposal for two weeks, I find it hard to believe it was looked at any more than 20 minutes before our meeting, at least by the members who were not on a lunch break at 3:30. I do not feel in any way that this group of people, who are in control of the funding for the more than 400 student organizations on campus, should conduct themselves in such an unprofessional manner, much less be in charge of such large amounts of funding money when they seem incapable of supporting any of their facts with documentation. I have emailed my UOSA Representatives about this as well, but I would like to bring this to the attention of the general OU public. No student organization should be treated in this manner, and I hope the incoming leadership will straighten this organization out. As for now, I would prefer to continue pursuing other ways of funding my group. At least that way I can talk to people who seem to care about the success or failure of my, as well as other's, organizations.
Court Hill
Mechanical Engineering Junior
Student Firearms Association President
o the Editor,
I would like to bring to your attention an issue that my organization has with the UOSA Emergency Funding Committee. We recently started the Student Firearms Association, and since its conception on 11 February 2011, we have grown to include approximately 100 active student members. We contacted several people in the Student Affairs office and UOSA to see about getting funding for our events, and were told to apply for emergency funding through UOSA. On 17 March, after researching prices for supplies, we applied for $600 worth of emergency funding. By 22 March the UOSA Budget Committee had received our application and begun reviewing it. We held our first event on 24 March and my Vice-President and I payed out of pocket for most of the expenses. This cost us a combined total of $250, and we were unable to provide a fraction of the ammunition shot, meaning our members spent out of pocket to shoot. By 29 March we had not heard back from the Budget Committee so we emailed them from our Club account asking about any kind of follow up meetings, or any response in general. They responded to my Vice-Presidents personal email informing us to set up a meeting, which we scheduled for 3 April. After consulting with several student leaders and those involved in UOSA we spent approximately 5 hours computing prices for every cent we asked for, with a final total of $600.41. We remained conservative, hoping to receive this and help pay for some of the costs of our next planned shoot.
After waiting in the UOSA office, we saw several members of the budget committee come in late with several bags from Crossroads. Sean Bender called us in to our meeting and we were immediately informed that we were not allowed to purchase the supplies we requested funding for, due to state law. When I asked about what law forbade this purchase, no one in the room was able to answer. At one point it was brought up that it might fall under federal law, but again they were unable to offer any evidence to back their claim. As we had not been warned about this in the two weeks prior to this meeting, we were caught off guard but easily listed other things the money could be used for. Again, citing a law no one was actually able to show me, we were told that we could not do that and we should simply email another person for some clarification. While this in itself seems unacceptable, what I found most disturbing was the highly unprofessional behavior of the other members. During our meeting, several of the representatives we met with did not look up from their lunch, while several more simply went from looking at their lunch to their computer. Very few of my questions were answered, at least in any definitive way, and I left after spending 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon working for this, feeling as though I had completely wasted my time.
What bothers me most about this entire ordeal, is how this group of people, after seeming indifferent to my passion for this club and my hope for its success, could so arbitrarily dismiss everything I said with no evidence to back it. Having had our proposal for two weeks, I find it hard to believe it was looked at any more than 20 minutes before our meeting, at least by the members who were not on a lunch break at 3:30. I do not feel in any way that this group of people, who are in control of the funding for the more than 400 student organizations on campus, should conduct themselves in such an unprofessional manner, much less be in charge of such large amounts of funding money when they seem incapable of supporting any of their facts with documentation. I have emailed my UOSA Representatives about this as well, but I would like to bring this to the attention of the general OU public. No student organization should be treated in this manner, and I hope the incoming leadership will straighten this organization out. As for now, I would prefer to continue pursuing other ways of funding my group. At least that way I can talk to people who seem to care about the success or failure of my, as well as other's, organizations.
Court Hill
Mechanical Engineering Junior
Student Firearms Association President
deerslayer89
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As well as the UOSA Representatives that represent me:
UOSA Engineering Reps,
I wanted you to address an issue I had recently with the UOSA Budget Committee. I applied for emergency funding for a student organization that I started in February. We received a lot of interest, and after working at finding prices for our supplies we filed for emergency funding. After talking to various members of congress we sent our first sheet in on 17 March. On 21 March we received an email stating that our file could not be opened and re-sent the Excel file. We were told that it was received on 22 March. on 29 March we had heard nothing else from any members of the Budget Committee abut what we should expect, any follow up procedures, or a time frame on acceptance or denial of our funding, so we emailed them from our organization's account. They emailed us back at a different email account and instructed us to make an appointment for 3 April and to come in for an interview. We spoke with several members involved in UOSA as well as other student leaders and were told to make a detailed list, outlining the cost of our supplies down to the cent. I spent several hours before the interview and managed to get our price sheet to within $ 0.41 of the amount we asked for, which was $600.
Before being called in for our interview we saw 3-5 members of the Budget Committee go in carrying several Crossroads bags several minutes late. As soon as my Vice-President and I were called into the interview room, we were told that of the $600 dollars we requested, none of it could be used for certain items we had asked for, accounting for about $550 of the requested funding. When asked why, the members of the Committee could not only not tell me whether it was State or Federal law, they could not agree with each other on what Title budgeting falls under. While I was not trying to argue with what is and is not law, I would appreciate the people controlling almost 3/4 of a million dollars be able to actually inform me of what law they are using to deny my club its funding. Seeing as how we had not been informed of this after their review of our funding request, or in the 2 weeks prior to our meeting, we were left at a loss for words. Though, I can say I felt that most of the Committee was more interested in their lunch than what I was talking about. I heard from 3 of the members regarding my funding and 1 other member who was arguing about which title of the government budgeting falls under, the rest seemed very involved in their lunch.
My Vice-President and I left our interview at a complete loss of words. Not only had we spent several hours working on this, which in my opinion was mostly if not entirely a waste of my time, we had not been informed of any issue with our request until we were in the meeting despite being in contact with them for two weeks. Most of the group seemed uninterested in anything we had to say, and were unable to definitively give us an answer for any of our questions. It seemed to both of us that the Crossroads burgers they were eating were more important to them than helping us get funding for a group we are passionate about. I do not know what our appropriation will be, and quite honestly I do not care. I payed out of pocket for my group's last event and if this is how I can expect to be treated I will do it again before trying to get funding from this Committee. I am extremely disappointed, not only about the way that we were treated, but that other groups might be experiencing the same thing and simply not speaking out about it. The fact that these people are in charge of $700,000, yet can actually tell me what law they are using to justify turning down my funding is ludicrous. The fact they can not agree on what Title budgeting falls under is alarming.
Over-all, this has left me with little to no confidence in the Budgeting branch of UOSA. If you are using law to turn me down, be prepared to show me where it says that I cannot do that. Be able to answer some of my questions, don't pass me off to another person. Do not eat lunch while I am sitting in a meeting with you asking for money, this not only is extremely nonprofessional but reflects poorly on yourself and your organization. Lastly, if you see that I am unable to use state money for what I am trying to buy, although I am still not entirely sure what vague law they are citing, do not inform me when I walk into the meeting, especially if you know 2 weeks ahead of time.
I certainly hope to see this addressed at your next meeting on Tuesday.
UOSA Engineering Reps,
I wanted you to address an issue I had recently with the UOSA Budget Committee. I applied for emergency funding for a student organization that I started in February. We received a lot of interest, and after working at finding prices for our supplies we filed for emergency funding. After talking to various members of congress we sent our first sheet in on 17 March. On 21 March we received an email stating that our file could not be opened and re-sent the Excel file. We were told that it was received on 22 March. on 29 March we had heard nothing else from any members of the Budget Committee abut what we should expect, any follow up procedures, or a time frame on acceptance or denial of our funding, so we emailed them from our organization's account. They emailed us back at a different email account and instructed us to make an appointment for 3 April and to come in for an interview. We spoke with several members involved in UOSA as well as other student leaders and were told to make a detailed list, outlining the cost of our supplies down to the cent. I spent several hours before the interview and managed to get our price sheet to within $ 0.41 of the amount we asked for, which was $600.
Before being called in for our interview we saw 3-5 members of the Budget Committee go in carrying several Crossroads bags several minutes late. As soon as my Vice-President and I were called into the interview room, we were told that of the $600 dollars we requested, none of it could be used for certain items we had asked for, accounting for about $550 of the requested funding. When asked why, the members of the Committee could not only not tell me whether it was State or Federal law, they could not agree with each other on what Title budgeting falls under. While I was not trying to argue with what is and is not law, I would appreciate the people controlling almost 3/4 of a million dollars be able to actually inform me of what law they are using to deny my club its funding. Seeing as how we had not been informed of this after their review of our funding request, or in the 2 weeks prior to our meeting, we were left at a loss for words. Though, I can say I felt that most of the Committee was more interested in their lunch than what I was talking about. I heard from 3 of the members regarding my funding and 1 other member who was arguing about which title of the government budgeting falls under, the rest seemed very involved in their lunch.
My Vice-President and I left our interview at a complete loss of words. Not only had we spent several hours working on this, which in my opinion was mostly if not entirely a waste of my time, we had not been informed of any issue with our request until we were in the meeting despite being in contact with them for two weeks. Most of the group seemed uninterested in anything we had to say, and were unable to definitively give us an answer for any of our questions. It seemed to both of us that the Crossroads burgers they were eating were more important to them than helping us get funding for a group we are passionate about. I do not know what our appropriation will be, and quite honestly I do not care. I payed out of pocket for my group's last event and if this is how I can expect to be treated I will do it again before trying to get funding from this Committee. I am extremely disappointed, not only about the way that we were treated, but that other groups might be experiencing the same thing and simply not speaking out about it. The fact that these people are in charge of $700,000, yet can actually tell me what law they are using to justify turning down my funding is ludicrous. The fact they can not agree on what Title budgeting falls under is alarming.
Over-all, this has left me with little to no confidence in the Budgeting branch of UOSA. If you are using law to turn me down, be prepared to show me where it says that I cannot do that. Be able to answer some of my questions, don't pass me off to another person. Do not eat lunch while I am sitting in a meeting with you asking for money, this not only is extremely nonprofessional but reflects poorly on yourself and your organization. Lastly, if you see that I am unable to use state money for what I am trying to buy, although I am still not entirely sure what vague law they are citing, do not inform me when I walk into the meeting, especially if you know 2 weeks ahead of time.
I certainly hope to see this addressed at your next meeting on Tuesday.
jtischauser
I'm addicted to kicking ass
That is crap! I woudl send your story to Remington, Benelli, FNH, Beretta, NRA and anybody else you can find an email for and I am 100% sure you will find some support in a hurry. The firearms community is pretty generous especially to guys like you that are struggling to make it through school. I will talk with Mr. Dubois and see if we can wrangler up some way to help.
deerslayer89
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Thanks Jesse, that is a very good idea! I will do some research on finding some email addresses and tell them what happened. If you guys know anyone that could help out please let us know too. I havent gotten a response yet but I am hoping that this gets published in the news paper. That is just unacceptable to me.
