mike cyrwus
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the barrel isnt attached to a gun that Jesse hawks the elephant dung out of.
Ultimate 3 Gun Barrel - Tischauser Spec
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Matt1911
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get with Tischauser on that oneIan Swope said:
jtischauser
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The stag barrel is made by SHAW I believe. It's a "match" grade fluted HBAR (heavy) barrel. The barrel DrJJ is selling is going to be several ounces lighter because it's not an HBAR contour.Ian Swope said:
As I understand it heavier barrels remain accurate longer when they are shot a lot and get hot. I don't think you're going to be shooting enough to have that matter in 3 gun simply because my light contour JP barrels don't get hot enough to outperform my Stag barrels in that respect. If you were doing several hundred round mag dumps then shooting groups with both a heavier barrel and with a lighter barrel the heavy barrel may hold better groups or show less point of impact changes than a lighter barrel after heavy round count induced heat.
The DrJJ barrel is made by Satern who is a boutique barrel builder of high $ bench rest or high power type stuff. I don't know exactly the processes each barrel is built with nor would I lie and say I understand exactly the science in barrel manufacturing. So there maybe something there in the way the barrels are cut that makes one more expensive and possibly more superior than the other in terms of accuracy.
What I have seen in my stag barrel performance versus say my JP or my Satern barrels that were in my old Loki rifles from a 3 gun perspective is that the more expensive barrels typically shoot a little tighter groups with match ammo and the more expensive barrels usually shoot better groups with a wider range of ammunition. I can shoot sub MOA with match ammo in both but my more expensive barrels shoot closer to MOA groups with cheaper ammo. As mentioned earlier I can't explain the science behind it I just see the results on the targets. Some of that may be due to the higher dollar barrels using tighter .223 Wylde chambers versus 5.56 chamber in a Stag barrel.
I hope that makes sense?
Ian Swope
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Makes great sense and certainly confirms to me that the stock barrel in my Model 3G upper will work fine for me. I doubt my skills are sub MOA beyond 100 yards at this point. Thanks for clarifying.
Packer Backer
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Matt1911
Cyrwus Jr.
same here.DoctorJJ said:
Larry Mullican
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My barrel should have shipped today. So are these strictly for .223 or does it also shoot the 5.56?
scubor2
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Wylde is for both.L6J6M said:
Larry Mullican
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Thanks for verifying. Found the following searching the answer.
.223 Wylde is a hybrid .223/5.56 chamber designed by Bill Wylde to yield the accuracy advantages of the match .223 Remington commercial chambering but without pressure or reliability failures when using high velocity 5.56 NATO spec ammunition. The .223 Wylde achieves better accuracy by having a chamber throat that is tighter than 5.56 but will still function reliably with military 5.56 ammunition as the case dimensions are the same.
.223 Wylde is a hybrid .223/5.56 chamber designed by Bill Wylde to yield the accuracy advantages of the match .223 Remington commercial chambering but without pressure or reliability failures when using high velocity 5.56 NATO spec ammunition. The .223 Wylde achieves better accuracy by having a chamber throat that is tighter than 5.56 but will still function reliably with military 5.56 ammunition as the case dimensions are the same.
striped1
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Packer Backer said:
The ar is self headspacing off of the barrel extension. You can check the headspace when mounted and it would have to be severely out of spec to be no go. Without the ability to machine the barrel, you would just be replacing the barrel if it didn't pass.
mike cyrwus
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striped1 said:
Or bolt.
Robusto
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Doc- the barrel shoots great! This shoots so much better than the one the Army gave me at Ft. Knox. Thank you.
dennishoddy
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HAHA! the ones we shot at Ft Cambell Ky. couldn't hit a pie plate at 50 yds they were so shot out.Robusto said:
striped1
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For those that have purchased one of these barrels, any follow up report? What type of accuracy are you getting?
Also, what size gas block does this require?
Also, what size gas block does this require?
billdozer
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.750 rifle length. Mine was a little iffy at first, but once it broke in 1/2 moa off a sled with a 6x scope.I'm sure if I had more magnification the barrel could do more.
