Turn in your neighbor & get a cash reward!

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Okay this is downright scary and obscene. I am really having a hard time wrapping my head around this happening in America. Basically, if you are in New York you can confidentially turn in your neighbor for having an "illegal" weapon/magazine and get a $500.00 cash reward when they are arrested.

I recently came across this excellent blog regarding 2A and gun rights (or lack thereof depending on where you live). They post several great bits of information every day. This is also the blog where I found the picture of the LEO with the EOTECH mounted backwards on his patrol rifle:

http://www.pagunblog.com/
 
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Note that the NY SAFE ACT has no exception for law enforcement to possess dangerous baby killing evil high capacity magazines.

One could hypothetically pay cash for a TracFone, drive to the park, and make some calls.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's department arrested Nathan Haddad (US Army vet, honorable discharge, just won award at Ft Drum for working with soldiers & their families) for magazine possession. I am sure those cops have illegal banned magazines, and they allow their kids and wives to have access to them. There may even be a domestic violence situation going on, caused by the high capacity magazine's presence. If it saves one kid it is worth it.
http://www.usacops.com/ny/s13601/index.html

Additionally, many NY politicians supported SAFE ACT. They and their staffers may own guns. If it saves one life, you have a duty to report their dangerous illegal firearms.
https://www.govbuddy.com/directory/staff/NY/

Several DA offices plan on zealously prosecuting these laws. Again the DA has a staff and those staffers may well own dangerous illegal firearms. For the children!

I am sure that some famous antigun people can be found on this list of NY Pistol Permit owners... If they own a high capacity magazine the police need to know.
https://sites.google.com/site/nymasterpistoldb/

Several media outlets have been advocating for SAFE ACT yet some of their employees own guns. This un-SAFE situation needs to be rectified.
http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/ ... ighborhood

If you have knowledge of any people in New York with dangerous banned magazines or firearms you should definitely report them as the NY State Police is requesting, and split the reward money 50/50 with NRA-ILA. It is your civic duty to report this information if you should have any. Obviously only accurate, correct information should be reported.

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the way to beat stuff like that IS NOT TO HIDE.
The way to beat it is to flood the system
dont let the phone stop ringing, keep the cops so occupied they cant work.
I would call in every apartment on the 24th floor of building without elevators.
you know how many hours it would take to search a 1000sqft apartment for something as small as a magazine?
NYers are idiots.
I could kill that stupid reward program in a day.
 
http://m.uticaod.com/observerdis/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=PEOt0kf9&full=true#display

So, it becomes harder to believe the fine folks in NY elected someone who is mentally retarded. Having someone who is functionally handicapped makes them all kinda.. special.

"There is no such thing as a seven-bullet magazine. That doesn't exist..." Cuomo said.

Bwahahahaha
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03 ... z2OCfU1xjk
New York offers $500 reward for reporting illegal gun owners

So, maybe like the media in CT did, publish a map of the legal CC holders, then add another
color dot for those who have been outed for illegal weapons, and finally another color dot on each of the whistleblowers (yeah, right).

I see this as an opening for illegal search. "It was reported you had an illegal weapon, and we're here to search the premises."

I guess these states are a proving ground for federal laws.
 
More likely a no knock warrant. The've spent years lowering the bar, to the point where nobody seems pissed in the least when a para-military force shows up at the wrong house for a no knock warrant, based on a tip from an anonymous informant, even if the wrong guy gets aerated.
 
I'd spend an hour a day going through the phone book calling in tips to various high rise apartment building all over the cities finest areas.
A few no-knocks on the wrong doors would have the city of NY's lawyers too busy fighting lawsuits. They (the lawyers) would advise the chiefs to end the program. Who's watching the banks while all these officers are out running down fake tips?
 
If people would use their heads none of this BS would even be possible.
THEY only have the power we give them.
Dont sit around crying about..."OH POOR ME, They signed a piece of paper and now I am losing my rights...BOO HOO"
Its friggin' ink.
disobey.
disrupt.
Its your right as as a Free Man.
How long could the Feds have held position in Waco if 10,000 angry Texans marched on the compound?
How long do you think the NY ban would last if people just disobeyed it. You think the underfunded NY police and Dept of corrections has the ability to prosecute and house an additional 4 million people?
Who's doing the actual response to the call-in tips? The cops on the street, thats who. And how many patrol officer can they dedicate to this endeavor?
I mean theres a finite anmount of money budgeted to each department and a finite number of police officers that do the work.
So you have to do one of two things...
A pull in off duty cops to work overtime doing the call-in response.
B neglect the standard patrol work and use the regular shift to do the call-in work
So A will mean that the more tips there are to respond to the faster they see millions of dollars in OT eating up the budget and B means duties like patrols, alarm checks, responding to calls, traffic work ect gets neglected. Its only a matter of time till that allows crimnals to sieze the opportunity and commit more crimes.
Either way, 4-5 thousand tips a day that result in no seizures and a bunch of pissed off, lawyered up NYers will end that BS idea.
 
The problem is the common thought of people unlike us is that those of us who think the way some of us do are crazy... And we should be more like Europe ...they don't need guns...... And only btchez need a gun... We are quickly becoming the odd ones out :|
 
I'm a new guy here, but I thought I'd add my two cents.
The primary response seems to be to resist and make more trouble for the police than they can endure.
Very nice idea. It sounds good but, probably won't work.
I would suggest that the powers who are manipulating NY city are themselves simply creating havoc amongst their people.
Most people who have an illegal weapon are keeping it very secure. If they are waving their gun around for their neighbors to see are probably a bit off in their heads anyway.

The New York politicians are crafty bastards (sorry I don't mean any disrespect to bastards).
They don't intend to follow up on more than a few high profile cases in the early campaign.
They simply seek to create distrust and amongst their citizens and make a show of Doing Something to buy cheap votes.

New Yorkers are smarter than this, but the population is so thoroughly saturated with weak minded accomplices who will do whatever they are lead to do on behalf of their masters. Silly fools think they'll own the world some day, but they're just being used.

I've been to New York, those people, for the most part are so involved in their own lives they probably won't give this new law a second thought.

Well, that was about 15 cents worth.

Yoda
 
Yoda said:
I'm a new guy here, but I thought I'd add my two cents.
The primary response seems to be to resist and make more trouble for the police than they can endure.
Very nice idea. It sounds good but, probably won't work.
I would suggest that the powers who are manipulating NY city are themselves simply creating havoc amongst their people.
Most people who have an illegal weapon are keeping it very secure. If they are waving their gun around for their neighbors to see are probably a bit off in their heads anyway.

The New York politicians are crafty bastards (sorry I don't mean any disrespect to bastards).
They don't intend to follow up on more than a few high profile cases in the early campaign.
They simply seek to create distrust and amongst their citizens and make a show of Doing Something to buy cheap votes.

Yoda, the context here is that this was adverstised extensively in UPSTATE New York. Not the crime ridden urban ghettos of NYC.

I see this snitch program as a direct reaction to the open defiance to the draconian NY "SAFE" Act. Gov Cuomo has shown a complete unwillingness to back down or modify his signature law that he rammed through literally at midnight. Faced with mass non-compliance including refusal to comply from a majority of sheriffs, 51/62 counties, and tens of thousands (or more) of defiant citizens he has to either nut up or shut up. The snitch program is a way to bludgeon the upstate -- which is the heart of opposition -- into compliance with threats.

Realize that when you suggest burying "illegal weapons" you're basically talking about hiding any sort of semiautomatic magazine fed firearm. That is how draconian SAFE is. Many New Yorkers in the upstate have already said that they will not comply.

Using the opponent's own rules against them is a very effective tactic. Think about it:
Every call to the call center costs the state something (its a toll free number, right)?
Every tip to the call center must be processed by a worker and presumably put into a database.
Enough tips and some will get exploited/fused with other information & databased, which also costs resources. Some will actually be investigated, again drawing resources away from our brothers and sisters in the upstate.
If the tips are acted on, it will result in terrible PR for Gov Cuomo's goon squads when they shoot the wrong dog and prone out innocent legislative staffers, police officer's wives, or liberal journalists.

If the tips are ignored due to too much chaff in the system, then the snitch system becomes useless for enforcing the law against our brothers and sisters.

Yoda said:
New Yorkers are smarter than this, but the population is so thoroughly saturated with weak minded accomplices who will do whatever they are lead to do on behalf of their masters. Silly fools think they'll own the world some day, but they're just being used.

I've been to New York, those people, for the most part are so involved in their own lives they probably won't give this new law a second thought.

Upstate NYS is very different from "the city" and downstate. Upstate NYS has said that it will not comply. While I have hope that the courts will rectify some of the situation civil disobedience -- which is what Cuomo is trying to stamp out with the stasi-like snitch program -- is the next logical step.
 
There's a lot of non-gun people (that are scrambling to get guns, particularly an AR-15) that have voiced to me that they, too, won't comply with any gun laws. That's why they're desperate to get an "assault rifle" that is "off the books"...
 
Armaborealis, I see your point, I was thinking primarily about the City dwellers.
You're correct, Upstate Ney York is really a different planet almost.
The entire state of New York has a leadership problem.
I wonder what the penalty is for submitting a false report like that?
What did they call this in the 60's? civil disobedience? as in civilians? or as in civility?
There would need to be some kind of an education campaign on the correct way to submit a false report without being caught.
One problem with conservatives is that they tend to at least try and obey the law.
Liberals rely on this.
 
I know the semi's have overnight started selling for about twice what they cost pre-Sandy Hook but what about the select fire stuff?
Has it doubled in price too?
 
As a current resident of upstate NY I can tell you for certain that the people of NY STATE didn't elect Cuomo. The people of NY CITY did. There are enough anti-gunners in the rest of the state to help but the the massively left NYC population essentially shoves this crap down the rest of our throats. Which is why I am on this forum... because I am leaving NY. For a lot of reasons really, I've wanted to move south for a long time, but this certainly puts the topping on the cake.

It's insanity. I hold a NYS (again STATE not CITY because you need a special city permit there) unrestricted carry pistol permit. To get it I had to go through months of background checks submit references in triplicate who then had to answer questionnaires. Then I had a Sheriffs deputy come to the house to talk to me and ask for more people nearby that they could talk to all to make sure I was "moral" enough (seriously that's the term in the law) to even own a handgun (you need a permit to even own one here and a higher level one to carry). As part of the process I had to submit fingerprints to the local, state and federal level for those background checks. Then I have the Supposed leader of my state, who you would think would support law abiding citizens, essentially cast myself and those like me as criminals. All the while going soft on criminals who actually are criminals.

Sorry I got off on a little rant there but it literally makes me ill even thinking about it.
 
What guns are "illegal?" I would say most of them fall into four categories: 1) stolen, 2) possessed by felons, 3) transferred across state lines w/o FFL, 4) modified. The "off the books" thing is an illusion; most of these are legal FTF transfers, whereby the ATF could still track the SN to some FFL purchase.

Now if NY (or any state) wants to make guns illegal by placing restrictions on them (capacity, cosmetic, etc), then lots of legal property will become illegal. I guess that's who they are after.
 
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