the future is here, printable guns
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Midnight Raver
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And then the spycams will be watching for the purchasers of 3D printers...
if not already. :roll:
Good post Tigerstripe!
if not already. :roll:
Good post Tigerstripe!
thebrasilian
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The printers for strong parts are around half a million.
Tigerstripe
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someone somewhere can probably carve a mag out of wood. plastic too. mold them from plastic? paper mache with steel lips?
armaborealis
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A five figure CNC mill is capable of making AR lowers. And a few grand of shop equipment is sufficient to finish 80% lowers.
I have a business idea for an Adult Build A Bear Workshop. You roll in to the store, which is in a shopping mall or similar. You pick out an 80% lower and get it laser engraved with a custom rollmark at the laser engraving station, then you take it to a CNC drill press and push the button to finish it yourself. Then, just like accessorizing your stuffed animal at Build-A-Bear, you get to dress up your AR with bins of different types of stocks, handguards, uppers, etc.
It is perfectly legal to manufacture your own firearm, no serial number or background check required, so long as it is for personal use. ATF has grudgingly said that pushing the "START" button on a CNC machine counts as being the manufacturer. I think it'd be a great idea for a business. Walk into the mall, walk out in a few hours with a custom AR-15, no 4473, no serial number.
3D printers and cheaper CNC technology mean that any hope of enforcing gun control is a fantasy, too. It is already possible to make simple AK-pattern rifles with crude tools (Pakistani goat herders do it all the time, and there's internet photos of a guy that made an AK out of a shovel...), but I'm sure Americans can figure out how to make higher quality AR-pattern rifles at home. I know the cartels that brew up meth and smuggle in tons of cocaine will figure it out if they need to.
I have a business idea for an Adult Build A Bear Workshop. You roll in to the store, which is in a shopping mall or similar. You pick out an 80% lower and get it laser engraved with a custom rollmark at the laser engraving station, then you take it to a CNC drill press and push the button to finish it yourself. Then, just like accessorizing your stuffed animal at Build-A-Bear, you get to dress up your AR with bins of different types of stocks, handguards, uppers, etc.
It is perfectly legal to manufacture your own firearm, no serial number or background check required, so long as it is for personal use. ATF has grudgingly said that pushing the "START" button on a CNC machine counts as being the manufacturer. I think it'd be a great idea for a business. Walk into the mall, walk out in a few hours with a custom AR-15, no 4473, no serial number.
3D printers and cheaper CNC technology mean that any hope of enforcing gun control is a fantasy, too. It is already possible to make simple AK-pattern rifles with crude tools (Pakistani goat herders do it all the time, and there's internet photos of a guy that made an AK out of a shovel...), but I'm sure Americans can figure out how to make higher quality AR-pattern rifles at home. I know the cartels that brew up meth and smuggle in tons of cocaine will figure it out if they need to.
rotarymike
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The cartels will continue buying guns from the international market. Almost unlimited money = almost unlimited choices. You think they bought those Barretts at a dealer in Texas?
thebrasilian said:
The cheaper ones aren't doing too bad on strength today and you have to understand the relationship of new technology to price. I remember when flat panel displays came out and a 15" model was $2500. Now a 23" is $125.
The cheap units will get better - or the better units will get cheaper. Same thing really, but in the end it won't be long before 3D printers are as cheap and available as a set of computer speakers.
Look at how fruitless the fight against pirated music and movies has been. Sure its technically illegal, but its so simple and easy to do that all they can do is catch a few people and do their best to make and example, but the entire populace basically ignores them and keeps on doing it.
thebrasilian
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The people that are doing this really need to focus on printing a scar lower. That was designed to be manufactured in plastic no the AR. The AR has to many stress points for printed plastic.
Calamitus
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I saw this on CSI NY. They printed a whole, functional revolver :roll:. Now everyone's up in arms, so to speak, about printable guns.
Midnight Raver
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CSI had a polymer single shot disposable pistol that a hit man was using. His Russian drug dealer client had the 3D printer that they were made on.
thebrasilian
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Then it must be true.
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PCShogun
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armaborealis said:
I love that idea, I would buy one if the price was right!
