School me on CZs

[Scott Hearn]

I'm thinking about attempting to find a pistol for my daughter. She's so tiny that she can actually limp wrist her M&P 9 if she's not really concentrating har on her grip and I'm thinking a metal framed gun would be better for her. But since she's so small Sigs, S&W 3rd gens, etc. will probably be too fat in the grip. So that leads me to CZs since they look so ergo friendly. I don't know if they are or not as I've never picked one up in my life. I'm looking at the SP 01 or Shadow.

Thoughts?

 

[Wall]

I'm thinking about attempting to find a pistol for my daughter. She's so tiny that she can actually limp wrist her M&P 9 if she's not really concentrating har on her grip and I'm thinking a metal framed gun would be better for her. But since she's so small Sigs, S&W 3rd gens, etc. will probably be too fat in the grip. So that leads me to CZs since they look so ergo friendly. I don't know if they are or not as I've never picked one up in my life. I'm looking at the SP 01 or Shadow.

Thoughts?

they're pretty heavy, might help with recoil management

 

[jtischauser]

I'd say buying one for your daughter is a great excuse to buy one. If she doesn't like it you can use it.

 

[ryanncass]

I think the only issue would be the longer reach needed for double action.

 

[Scott Hearn]

I'd say buying one for your daughter is a great excuse to buy one. If she doesn't like it you can use it. :wink:

Well if I get one I'll have it or a sweet M&P 9 that Cyrwus worked over.

I think the only issue would be the longer reach needed for double action.

Is it substantially longer than a M&P? I know the DA first shot is going to be different but I don't see that as a that big a deal. But then again I shoot revolver division...

 

[technetium-99m]

They are cool guns. I may pick up a 75 to go with my SP-01. Double action first pull is never gonna be below 6 pounds or so, but she could always just go cocked with the safety on.

 

[jtischauser]

What's the difference between the Shadow and a 75?

 

[Riich]

Shadow and 85 Combat do not have series 80 style firing pin block. Neither do the early model 75s.
Current production 75B has the block.

You have to keep the block mechanism installed to comply with Production Division rules.

If you are seriously considering, suggest you also look at the CZ custom thin grips to go with it. It makes the grip feel smaller than stock grips.

 

[jtischauser]

You lost me!

 

[technetium-99m]

The SP-01 shadow is a 75 with a light rail, no decocker, no firing pin block, and the hammer from the 85 I think. CZC offers a 75 Shadow with a short dust cover, no decocker, and a firing pin block. That's what I'm thinking about.

 

[stuart1]

Very cool guns . Accurate, reliable , point very well. Thin grips help with small hands. Best choice is 75 Shadow or SP01 Shadow. About 6 weeks out with build time.
But I can be a bit biased. Hahaha

 

[Riich]

Sorry about the little cryptic post earlier.

The original CZ75s had short dust cover frame and no firing pin block.
When they added the firing pin block system, they rebranded the guns as CZ75B.
It is an additional mechanism that lifts a lever as the trigger is pulled. This lever unblocks the mechanism that prevents the firing pin from moving. It is like the Colt Series 80 1911 where the firing pin remains locked unless you actually pull the trigger. This mechanism adds some weight to the trigger pull and makes for a longer reset. This system is also present in CZ85B, SP01, CZ97B, CZ75SA and their Decockers.

CZ still produces some guns without this extra mechanism for the competition markets and they are CZ85 Combat, CZSP-01 Shadow and CZ75 Shadow.

The removal of the extra mechanism from a CZ75B or std SP01 to address the trigger issues used to be a popular modification for a "poor man's Shadow" until NROI ruled against it for USPSA Production. (If it came from the factory without the extra parts or holes for them in the slide, it is allowed in Production Division. If it came with the parts, they can be polished but they need to stay in the gun)

 

[Scott Hearn]

Excellent info guys. Who's got one I can fondle?

 

[Riich]

Are you ever up in KC area?
I've been shooting Production with a Std SP01 with comp hammer at local matches.

 

[technetium-99m]

I've got one you could check out Scott, Jesse has one as well.

 

[boomer mooner]

I've got a single action 75B and also have the .22 long rifle Kadet Kit. I plan on going out to the OKC gun range Sunday if you want to try it out.

 

[Scott Hearn]

I've got one you could check out Scott, Jesse has one as well.

G.T. you gonna be at SC this weekend?

I've got a single action 75B and also have the .22 long rifle Kadet Kit. I plan on going out to the OKC gun range Sunday if you want to try it out.

I doubt I can make Sunday but thanks.

 

[SpaceFlunky]

you might consider the smaller frame P-01. I bought one and my wife ended up loving how it shot and how it felt in her smaller hands. I picked mine up over at http://www.damascusgunshop.com/shop/ but since the craze their stock has dwindled.
Im planning on getting some smaller grips and sending it over to Stuart for a trigger job and some F/O sights.
The only gripe i have is that the double action pull is heavy and she has to reach for it a bit. After the trigger job gets done on it, she is going to be just fine with it.

Here is mine....well i guess i should say my wifes now....

 

[Wall]

the only thing I don't like about these pistols is the fitment at the front of the slide/frame. it doesn't line up & looks unfit

 

[billdozer]

Wall, I just fit my slide on my ts. And that drove me crazy too, that being said they are still accurate as hell and soft shooting. If the double action is to long and heavy, put a single stage in, and enjoy your sub 2 lbs trigger.