SC law change for carry in a restaraunt that served alchohol

[Bow_breaker]

Just like the title said. I remember it being proposed a while back. Does anyone in the know if this bill is in deadlock or tossed out the window. It is slightly bothersome to pull out a pistol in the parking lot of apple-bees and lock it in the glove box when it was perfectly comfortable in a IWB holster. I don't drink unless im at home anyways. Granted no one would notice anyway but that's beside the point.

 

[Frost]

Sadly it seems to still be on hold.
Perhaps we should start writing our legislators.
http://www.scfirearms.org/Legislative/L ... pdate.html

 

[Red Hat]

Unfortunately that bill is pretty dead. http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_200 ... ls/593.htm They basically took the restaurant carry out of and passed the School bill. http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_200 ... ls/593.htm

 

[Bow_breaker]

hmm. Until now i have never read that old law in its entirety. For years I walked around my daughters school with a knife clipped to my back pocket with not so much as a mention by other people.....and my glove box has NEVER bin lonely.

 

[Frost]

It just doesn't make sense that I can carry in McDonald's but not in a nice resturant.

 

[Midnight Raver]

That's because the criminal elephants don't go to the nice places. McDonalds is their feeding grounds.

 

[DEO VINDICE]

Here's a question...take a place that serves alcohol in a jurisdiction that bans sales of alcoholic beverages on Sundays. Can one carry the trusty firin' iron in there on God's day after church?

 

[thebrasilian]

Here's a question...take a place that serves alcohol in a jurisdiction that bans sales of alcoholic beverages on Sundays. Can one carry the trusty firin' iron in there on God's day after church?

Now that's a good question.

 

[Range Master]

The law is very clear, it simply states that the criteria is a license for the on-premises consumption of liquor, beer or wine. I would always err on the side of caution and leave my gun in the............nope, I'll eat somewhere else.

 

[The General]

SC law prevents carrying concealed in an establishment that has a license ot serve alchohol, regardless of whether they are actively serving or not (like on a Sunday).

So the short answer is "No". You can NOT carry even if its on Sunday or they aren't serving any other day.

-Mike

 

[thebrasilian]

Does anyone know what their reasoning for taking it off? I'm sure it was illogical.

 

[Range Master]

As I understand it, several versions of the bill existed. In order to clearly define the statute, one proposed that the bulk of an establishments revenue must be generated by sales of goods other than alcohol. Another proposed that the permit holder could not sit in the area of the establishment which catered primarily to the service of alcohol (at the bar in an Applebees for example). Yet another proposed that the permit holder could carry as long as he or she did not consume alcohol.
We need a clearly defined statute, with minimal restriction and, enhanced penalties for willful violation.

 

[at_liberty]

As I understand it, several versions of the bill existed. In order to clearly define the statute, one proposed that the bulk of an establishments revenue must be generated by sales of goods other than alcohol. Another proposed that the permit holder could not sit in the area of the establishment which catered primarily to the service of alcohol (at the bar in an Applebees for example). Yet another proposed that the permit holder could carry as long as he or she did not consume alcohol.
We need a clearly defined statute, with minimal restriction and, enhanced penalties for willful violation.

The only thing that will ever pass muster is lifting any and all restrictions. The problem is always in the regulation, designating a regulator, and keeping the libertarians happy. My take is that none of that is ever going to happen. The gun rights advocates working the law will not compromise and accept any progressive easing of restrictions. The all or nothing approach will likely yield nothing.

What I have read is that the hard core libertarians are not just interested in being able to remain armed wherever they go...they want to be able to drink and carry at the same time and be their own judge of how much they can handle. To me, that's like shooting at a range with some safety disaster character shooting in the next stall. No thanks. I am not sure there is an answer, because I don't like the "or else" penalties. They always want to make it losing ones personal defense rights instead of making the point in some other way. There always seems to be a need to deprive people of their gun ownership rights at the slightest provocation. It's a very tangled web, so no law gets passed at all.

 

[Range Master]

Beer and alcohol do not _______. Anyone can complete the sentence using only common sense (which is seemingly uncommon in this day and age). The question is, how does one legislate responsible behavior. In my opinion, carrying a handgun while drinking is the epitome of irresponsibility. Understandably, the vast majority would not condone or participate in such folly. However, how do we accommodate individual freedom as well as protect society from those who operate at below average mental proficiency? Can't legislate common sense. Thus, permit individual freedoms while enhancing penalties for those willfully stupid. Stupidity should hurt, God made it that way.