S.C. Emergency Powers Act???

2ndAmendican

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Hello folks. On another website we were having a discussion regarding the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe and the subsequent collection of legally owned firearms from the public by both local LEO's and military. These people were threatened, coerced, and bullied into relenquishing their firearms, and then later several of these same people were injured, killed, raped, etc... by ARMED thugs. The LEO's/military took away the people's right to protect themselves. This spurred a discussion about finding out what the laws are in your own respective state regarding whether the state has the right to do something similar in an emergency. I have been searching, but I haven't found out much. There is a lot of info to sift through. Do any of you know the answer to this, or could someone point me to the right spot in South Carolina's laws and regulations that would cover this? Thanks in advance for any and all help.
 
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A federal law prohibiting seizure of lawfully held firearms during an emergency, the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006, passed in the House with a vote of 322 to 99, and in the Senate by 84-16. The bill was signed into law by President Bush on October 9, 2006.


Also interesting is the Police Department's statement:
"Police department spokesman Bob Young said it has stored 552 guns that were confiscated after Katrina, through Dec. 31, 2005. Police have said they only took guns that were stolen or found in abandoned homes."

In their lawsuit, the gun lobbying groups accused the city of violating gun owners' constitutional right to bear arms and leaving them "at the mercy of roving gangs, home invaders, and other criminals" after Katrina.

In response, the city argued that federal law doesn't apply to the plaintiffs' claims against city officials "because the right to keep and bear arms has never been recognized as a fundamental individual right."
 
Sorry to double post, but I think I found your answer.

SECTION 23-31-510. Prohibition Against Regulation of Certain Matters.
No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in this State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance which regulates or attempts to regulate the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things.

SECTION 23-31-520. Power to Regulate Public Use of Firearms; Confiscation of Firearms or Ammunition.
This article does not affect the authority of any county, municipality, or political subdivision to regulate the careless or negligent discharge or public brandishment of firearms, nor does it prevent the regulation of public brandishment of firearms during the times of or a demonstrated potential for insurrection, invasions, riots, or natural disasters. This article denies any county, municipality, or political subdivision the power to confiscate a firearm or ammunition unless incident to an arrest.

www.handgunlaw.us
 
Thanks for the info. I'm in a bit of a rush right now, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to post more, but there are LOTS of states that have enacted Emergency Powers laws that suspend the 2nd Amendment during times of natural disasters, manmade disasters, terrorism, civil disobedience, etc.... Lots of discussion on these laws on WhenSHTF.com, and everyone is off researching their respective states laws. Thanks again for your help.
 
Here's some info that was posted on another forum regarding North Carolina Law that doesn't affect your home, but does affect transporting firearms:

Since North Carolina Governor Beverly Perdue signed Executive Order 62, declaring a State of Emergency in the face of Hurricane Earl, a debate has ensued over whether N.C.G.S. 14-288.7, which restricts transportation of ?dangerous weapons? ? including firearms ? applies to the many thousands of concealed handgun permit-holders, sport shooters and hunters who appear to be in violation of state law.

Both the office of the governor and the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission have issued proclamations that EO 62 does not restrict lawful gun owners and hunters. Unfortunately, both Governor Perdue and the WRC are not only wrong, but by all apearances, willfully wrong. And below you will find out why.

Perdue faces a monumental problem: To get FEMA aid in response to the hurricane, she must declare a State of Emergency. Yet G.S. 14-288.7 is quite clear that under a SoE, no one but law enforcement officers and the military, during commission of their duties, may transport firearms away from his or her ?premises.?

Worse, the governor?s party, under the direction of House Majority Leader Hugh Holliman, had no less than two opportunities when the legislature was in session to rectify the problem. Both HB 257 and HB 2031 removed the restriction on carriage of firearms during a SoE. HB 2031, in fact, was introduced after the problem became known when King, NC banned guns and ammunition in response to an impending snowstorm.

Then there is the pending litigation over exactly this issue, Bateman et al v. Perdue et al, of which my organization, Grass Roots North Carolina is a plaintiff.

Unfortunately, instead of admitting the problem and vowing to resolve it, Gov. Perdue is conducting a disinformation campaign to get people to believe it doesn?t exist. And in replying to constituents, the governor?s office has begun applying what can only be described as ?big lie theory? as they have begun to carefully misstate the contents of EO 62.

SAYS THE GOVERNOR?S OFFICE:

??After checking with legal counsel, we are pleased to inform you that the current state of emergency was written in such a way that the rights of NC gun owners are not infringed upon. However, local authorities still have the authority to establish states of emergency within their jurisdictions that may impact your right to carry weapons.

?Dove season will open as scheduled on Sept. 4. The Commission?s general counsel has advised that there is no legal impediment to hunting during the current state of emergency.?

THE TRUTH:

Says Grass Roots North Carolina?s Director of Legal Research, Ed Green:

?On Sept. 1, 2010, Governor Perdue issued Executive Order No. 62 declaring ?that a state of emergency exists in the State due to the approach of Hurricane Earl.? Nothing in EO 62 mentions gun owners or the possession of guns in any way. Nothing in EO 62 purports to suspend the operation of any
NC law.

?NCGS ? 14-288.7 clearly and unambiguously forbids the possession of any firearm off one's premises during any declared State of Emergency, with exceptions only for law enforcement and military in the course of their duties. Under NC law, whenever a State of Emergency is declared, no citizen
may possess any gun outside of their home.

?Even if EO 62 were worded (or amended) to expressly permit the possession of firearms, the governor has no constitutional or statutory authority to suspend the effect or enforcement of a valid NC criminal law. Once she declared a State of Emergency, Gov. Perdue legally disarmed all NC civilians outside their own homes, including the thousands of otherwise legally licensed hunters expected to take to the fields for the opening of Dove season at noon Saturday.?

SAYS THE GOVERNOR?S OFFICE:

?The EO only delegated the power and authority to the Secretary of Crime Control and Public Safety necessary to implement the State's Emergency Operation Plan. The EO was written in this way mindful of the current lawsuit related to GS. 14-288.7. Implementation of the State's Emergency Operation Plan does not require that G.S. 14-288.7 be enforced.?

THE TRUTH:

From counsel Ed Green:

?EO 62 was NOT written mindful of Gura's lawsuit. The language delegating authority "for the purpose of implementing the State Emergency Operation Plan" is IDENTICAL to language in EO 7 (1/20/09), EO 27 (10/28/09), EO 30 (11/16/09), and EO 47 (1/30/10), all declaring states of emergency (mostly for snow). See http://www.governor09.nc.gov/NewsItems/ ... rList.aspx?

Moreeover, EO 62 does not say merely that ?the State?s Emergency Operation Plan? is being implemented, it says:

?EXECUTIVE ORDER NO.62
PROCLAMATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DUE TO HURRICANE EARL?

Meanwhile, G.S. 14-288.7 says: ?it is unlawful for any person to transport or possess off his own premises any dangerous weapon or substance in any area?n which a declared state of emergency exists??

BIG LIE THEORY IN PRACTICE

The most bald-faced lie told by the governor, however, is this:

?You have asked whether G.S. 14-288.7 applies to the state of emergency declared in Executive Order 62 due to Hurricane Earl. Executive Order 62 was issued pursuant to the Governor?s authority under the North Carolina Emergency Management Act, Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and not pursuant to her authority under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. [Emphasis added]

?Executive Order 62 did not trigger the provisions of G.S. 14-288.7, and there was never any intention by the issuance of Executive Order 62 to restrict the transportation or possession of off-premises firearms. "

THE TRUTH

Now contrast that with Section 3 of EO 62, the declaration of State of Emergency, which clearly contains what they claim is not there:

?Section 3.

?I delegate to Reuben F. Young, Secretary of Crime Control and Public Safety, or his designee, all power and authority granted to me and required of me by Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes for the purpose of implementing the State?s Emergency Operations Plan and to take such further action as is necessary to promote and secure the safety and protection of the populace in North Carolina.? [Emphasis added]

That would be the same Article 36 A, Chapter 14 which contains the definition of ?state of emergency,? the definition of ?dangerous weapon? to include firearms and, yes, G.S. 14-288.7, the ban on transporting dangerous weapons during states of emergency.

FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL:

But don?t take my word for it. Ask NC Attorney General Roy Cooper who, together with gun law expert John J. Aldridge III, wrote a 46-page tome entitled ?North Carolina Firearms Laws,? in which they say:

?It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. ? 14-288.7 A concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas. N.C. Gen. Stat. ? 14-415.11(c)?

THE HOLLIMAN / PERDUE GUN BAN

If the Holliman/Perdue gun ban contained in EO 62 continues to be in effect on Saturday, when North Carolina dove season opens, thousands of hunters will be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by up to 120 days in jail. Short of rescinding EO 62, nothing Perdue or anyone else can do will change that.

It would be politically untenable for the state to prosecute any of these people, of course. But in living under the shadow of selective prosecution, North Carolina gun owners now exist at the convenience and on the good graces of Queen Beverly, who has taken your right to bear arms, and turned it into a privilege.
 
The Second Amendment Foundation won tho Bateman VS Purdue lawsuit mentioned above on April 29 of this year. The NC government can no longer prohibit the purchase, sale, or possession of firearms and ammunition during declared states of emergency.

SAF won a permanent injunction against the prohibition of carrying firearms and ammunition during declared states of emergency.

This would not allow government officials to prohibit the purchase, sale, or possession of firearms and ammunition during declared states of emergency.

http://www.2ndamendmentcourtcases.com/?page_id=74
 
Thanks for the info Carson. I appreciate that. I'm just glad we don't have to worry about it in S.C. I'm glad I live in a more conservative, pro 2nd Amendment state.
 
2ndAmendican said:
Thanks for the info Carson. I appreciate that. I'm just glad we don't have to worry about it in S.C. I'm glad I live in a more conservative, pro 2nd Amendment state.

Yea, NC has some stupid Jim Crow laws still in enforcement. One big one is how the residents of NC are required to apply for a Pistol Purchase Permit at their local sheriff's office every time they want to buy a pistol.

NC has a few thing better than SC, though. Such as NOT needing to ask the government for permission, as in no permit needed, to carry openly. Open carry is not regulated. Residents and visitors can carry openly there without any sort of identification on them.

On top of NOT needing any sort of permit to carry openly, one can legally start open carrying, without a permit, as soon as that person turns 18 years old.
 
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