Not legal in SC???

[Bob Ouellette]

for information purposes only you can do a youtube search about constructing a simple blast furnace. I have thought about making one to melt down junk brass and aluminum, but I already have too many hobbies and have downsized most of them already.

Watch some videos of people pouring molten brass and steel that's some hot dangerous stuff, I know I would burn my house down on accident if I tried. Good thing I know my limitations.

All I need is for some nosy old lady to call the cops saying my foundry is a moonshine still or meth lab. If a crimminal was smart enough he would probably not be killing people he would be in politics with the rest of the smart crimminals.

It really is quite easy. You could also build a simple wood fire and an air source to achieve temperatures hot enough to melt/burn steel. Just get a $30 shop vac from Home Despot and put that bad boy on reverse. I've done a few melts and pours over the years. The scariest thing I saw was an aluminum pour into an unheated ingot mold. It shot molten metal all over the guys doing the pour. Luckily, it was light enough to roll off of them. Brass is fun to melt and pour, but it's heavy and you have to get it to about 1700-1800 degrees to get it molten.

I doubt you'll have someone calling the cops. I used to drag my blacksmithing forge outside and forge right there in the front yard. The neighbors thought it was cool because they haven't ever seen it.

 

[bigfutz]

Not legal in SC??? Good News!

In another post here on PSF, I noted in House Bill 3665:

This bill would also repeal the prohibition on selling handguns in South Carolina that fail to meet an arbitrarily determined "melting point" standard, which is also tied into the handgun licensing provision.

So maybe you can order that item from Bud's (original post) soon!

http://www.palmettoshootersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3551

 

[Landy]

Not legal in SC???Maybe soon....

South Carolina: House Subcommittee Passes Two NRA-Backed Firearms Bills!



Yesterday, the South Carolina House General Laws Subcommittee approved two NRA-backed bills, both of which would make a number of significant improvements for firearms owners and dealers in the Palmetto State. Both bills will now be scheduled for a hearing by the House Judiciary Committee in the upcoming weeks.

House Bill 3665, introduced by state Representatives Dan Cooper (now resigned), Mike Pitts (R-14), and Bill Taylor (R-86), would repeal the unnecessary requirement that Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders also be licensed by the state in order to sell handguns. This requirement is a remnant of the old One-Handgun-A-Month law that the NRA worked to repeal in 2004. This bill would also repeal the prohibition on selling handguns in South Carolina that fail to meet an arbitrarily determined "melting point" standard, which is also tied into the handgun licensing provision. The subcommittee removed the state dealer licensing repeal language, when it was decided a fiscal impact would need to be determined for this provision. Rather than delay consideration of the ?melting point? repeal provision, that section was passed on its own, and the NRA will work with legislators to address the handgun dealer licensing repeal after the fiscal impact has been determined.

House Bill 4494, introduced by state Representatives Chip Huggins (R-85), Deborah Long (R-45), and Mike Pitts, would amend South Carolina law to comply with the federal standard that allows long guns to be purchased by South Carolinians in non-contiguous (not bordering) states. Current law in the Palmetto State restricts residents to purchasing long guns only in contiguous (bordering) states.


While no hearings have been set at this time, both of these bills will be heard by the full House Judiciary Committee in the near future. You may contact the members of the House Judiciary Committee to encourage their support by clicking here.


Your NRA-ILA will continue to keep you updated on the status of these bills and other firearms-related legislation being considered by the South Carolina Legislature this session.



This alert is posted at: http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state ... s=&st=&ps=

 

[PCShogun]

Not legal in SC??? CORRECTED information

The SC Law states that a "Licensed Dealer" may not receive, transfer, or possess at his business any of these banned arms. I have looked, but have not found where someone cannot bring one of these arms into the State AS LONG AS IT IS LEGALLY OBTAINED. (IE., Legally purchased and moved w/ household).

Some States REQUIRE that ANY transfer of a Firearm be documented. Some States require that the documentation be such paperwork including ATF 4473 and include NCIC or other Instant background check.

FEDERAL FIREARMS REGULATION REFERENCE GUIDE, Q&A (B16)para3 states:
"Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's State."

FEDERAL LAW DICTATES that a Licensed Dealer transfer handguns ONLY to lawful Residents of the State of his FFL Address.

I hold a SC SLED Retail Pistol License and FFL. This information is correct to the best of my knowledge. If I ever find otherwise, I intend to speak up and correct this post. REally.

GUNSMOAK

GUNSMOAK, My understanding is that in this case you are correct. The law prevents the sale of these weapons in South Carolina by licensed dealers, however, if you already legally owned one, you can bring it into the state.

 

[biganimal]

SECTION 23-31-180. Certain pistols declared to be contraband; forfeiture, seizure, and destruction; disposal restrictions; use for display.

No licensed retail dealer may hold, store, handle, sell, offer for sale, or otherwise possess in his place of business a pistol or other handgun which has a die cast, metal alloy frame or receiver which melts at a temperature of less than eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit.
A pistol or other handgun possessed or sold by a dealer in violation of this article is declared to be contraband and must be forfeited to or seized by the law enforcement agency in the municipality where forfeited or seized or to the law enforcement agency in the county where forfeited or seized if forfeited or seized outside a municipality. The weapon must be destroyed by the law enforcement agency which seized the weapon or the law enforcement agency to which the weapon is forfeited. A weapon must not be disposed of in any manner until the results of any legal proceeding in which it may be involved are finally determined.
However, a law enforcement agency may use the weapon for display purposes after the weapon has been rendered inoperable.

I cannot find anything that allows or dis-allows possession of these handguns by a regular citizen. Bear in mind the law states that a dealer cannot even handle a contraband pistol, so don't put your dealer in jeopardy by taking one to him even just to look at it!

 

[annieoakley]

I am normally a very, very law-abiding citizen. I even obey all speed limits. But, this melting point gun law is a little too much for me. Maybe it is because I fell in love with a Heritage Rough Rider....ahemmm.....maybe b/c I am cheap.....And I was just looking for a nice revolver that used .22lr to go target shooting and also for defense. I went down to Sports Authority, and was told I could not get one after I had seen it online. So, I got a Neos .22. It is ok, but, after being warned about springs in the mag. not being trustworthy if always loaded, I wanted a revolver.

My question is, can you buy one outside the state w/o involving a gun dealer here? How irritating!!!!!

 

[PCShogun]

You can buy one face to face from someone in the state, but you cannot go through a dealer.

I purchased a small Taurus PT-22 and have liked it. Only issue has been that the ammo needs to be copper jacketed and high velocity, else I get jams and stove pipes.

 

[annieoakley]

Well, nevermind the dang SC melting law. One of my sons was part owner of a gun shop, and he said the law was more about the 'saturday nite specials' and their relatively lower cost and the likelihood of being tossed after a serious crime, as opposed to the more expensive guns of plastic, etc. ANYWAY, I attended the SC gun show in Greenville, hoping to find something like the Heritage Rough Rider. Well, I did. And it says it is a Rough Rider......so, I dunno. But, the sweetest one was a 1968 Rossi .22lr, that was made like the 'LadySmith'. Never shot. Going to the range today or tomorrow to check them out. WoooHooooooo. I am stuck on the .22lr ammo. Cheap. Oh, I forgot.....Went to a local gun shop, and their take on the SC melting law, and say....the Rough Rider was that after shooting it for a while, the gun barrel sorta melted down, and drooped toward the earth....kinda like a 'cartoon' gun Wiley Coyote would own, I guess.

 

[Midnight Raver]

Hmm, I think most people would not want a firearm that could possibly do that.

 

[armaborealis]

Well, nevermind the dang SC melting law. One of my sons was part owner of a gun shop, and he said the law was more about the 'saturday nite specials' and their relatively lower cost and the likelihood of being tossed after a serious crime, as opposed to the more expensive guns of plastic, etc.

I think the real "problem" SC was trying to solve was lower income people being able to afford firearms. Can't have that, now!

Good riddance to the offensive melt point law.

 

[44lover]

I bought a Heritage Rough Rider at the Ladson gun show a few years back, new in the box, 22lr/22mag convertible. I shoot it from time to time in the back yard. I can't see anyone shooting that thing continuously enough to "droop" the barrel. It is after all, a single action 6 shot. :roll:

 

[annieoakley]

Okay.....so, I went to the SC Gun show last month or sometime.....and got a Heritage.....something. Looks like it was a Rough Rider. Anyway, I am thinking...OK....guess if you can sell it here, I can buy it here. ANYWAY.....joined the NC Outer Banks Gun Club and shot it. Along with the 1968 Rossi 7 shooter revoler made like the Lady S&W. LOVED....loved.....the Heritage gun. I mean...it was spot on. BUT, the Rossi...that had never been shot...had me all over the place. But, all this to say....it made my Beretta Neos, very precious in my sight. I mean.....inside the inner ring all the time. All the time. And, I had asked the guy that sorta monitored the gun club stations if he would just come out and be there when I shot the 2 new guns. Well, my daughter is moving back here, so, I wanted another plinker so we could go out together and have some fun. Just wanted to say, I have enjoyed this thread, and have come back to check on it.

 

[458bigboy]

that makes no sense. :?: :?: :?:

 

[Lupinus]

ZOMG THREADCROPHILLIA!

 

[Dave29461]

The Heritage is a fun shooter that should never have been banned in the state. The older Rossi was a different animal. The metal in the revolvers was soft. The 38spec/.357 had problems with stretching after/because of high power loads. This threw it out of time which means you start getting pieces of lead being shaved off and spitting out side and back. I have an old H&R 32S&W that the timing is off a smidge and it is no longer safe to shoot. I don't think I've ever seen one of these gun melt down from shooting. I understand Taurus has taken over the Rossi line of firearms so maybe the QA will improve. Glad you are enjoying your Neos. The .22 is great for training. It is a gateway caliber. You get hooked on .22 and before you know it, you're moving on to heavier stuff. .380>.9mm>.45ACP. It is an insidious addiction.

Dave