New Limited gun designs 3011

The Antichrome · Jan 8, 2013

Random rant.
Now that the STI/SVI patent has expired, there will be a few new 2011 style guns hitting the market.
The FGW frame is the first new one that I've seen, and it looks pretty cool for frame-up builds.

But Eagle Imports is bringing a couple of things to the table...SPS, and Mac3011.
SPS has been building 2011 modular high cap guns in Europe for awhile but didnt sell them in the US.
Now they are...but they are kinda clueless...Their 'Pantera' model is touted as a Limited gun, but in .45 and 12 rounds I dont see it as a contender.

Today in the Shooting Wire, they announced their new MAC 3011 "Competition Ready" models.
These look like Para/Caspian type guns. Again in .45, 14 rounds. I wonder what "Competition" they think they are ready for. They wouldnt be legal in any division of IDPA, and wouldnt be competitive in USPSA except the dying L-10 division. Even at that, .45 is getting rare in matches.

http://www.shootingwire.com/story/276639

dennishoddy · Jan 8, 2013

I agree the .45 is not in favor for competition.
If the new proposed mag bans are passed, single stack and L10 may become more popular?

Chambers · Jan 8, 2013

46 oz.? Geez

The Antichrome · Jan 8, 2013

dennishoddy said:
I agree the .45 is not in favor for competition.
If the new proposed mag bans are passed, single stack and L10 may become more popular?

They way things are looking, it'll be L-5

jtischauser · Jan 8, 2013

Right idea wrong execution. Some young buck like chambers needs to hit these guys up for sponsorship and help get them on the right track.

Chambers · Jan 8, 2013

Cyrwus is the only reason my guns work, you know that!

Anyway, saw this on their site:

http://www.metroarms.com/sps/sps-vista-short-model.html

jtischauser · Jan 8, 2013

Chambers said:
Cyrwus is the only reason my guns work, you know that!
Anyway, saw this on their site:
http://www.metroarms.com/sps/sps-vista-short-model.html

Oh I'm sure you would still need Cyrwus' magic to keep it running on a weekly basis.

The Antichrome · Jan 8, 2013

Jesse Tischauser said:
Right idea wrong execution. Some young buck like chambers needs to hit these guys up for sponsorship and help get them on the right track.

Exactly. Although I did go to the Armscor/Rock Island booth at last years SHOT show. They were most interested in showing their .22tcm/9mm gun but also had several 'Limited' style guns...all in .45 or 9mm. I asked about anything in development in .40 and they just laughed. They gave me a whole story about it being too hard to build for and how it was on the way out and nobody uses it for competition...and at that point I knew there was no way...

I suspect the real story is that since they make a bunch of STI's frames/parts that there might be an agreement to not tread into that market.