Melting point law extingished

[fiundagner]

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state ... o-law.aspx

South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley (R) signed House Bill 4494 into law on June 29, marking an end to South Carolina?s experiment with radical anti-gun policies in the 1970?s. This law, effective upon the Governor?s signature, repeals the prohibition on selling certain handguns that do not meet the arbitrary 800 degree melting-point standard, and the requirement for Federal Firearms License holders to be licensed with the state in order to sell handguns. H 4494 also brings South Carolina into conformity with federal law by allowing the sale of long guns in non-contiguous states to South Carolina residents.
With the repeal of these laws, coupled with the 2004 repeal of the law that limited handgun purchases by law-abiding citizens to one in a thirty day period, South Carolina has now dismantled the last vestiges of an anti-gun agenda that was successfully promoted in the 1970?s. Governor Haley deserves thanks from the pro-gun community for signing into law this important legislation. Also deserving appreciation for their efforts (as previously reported here) to pass H 4494 are Senators Chip Campsen (R-43), John Courson (R-20), John Land (D-36), Larry Martin (R-2), Harvey Peeler (R-14), and Nikki Setzler (D-26), as well as Representatives Mike Pitts (R-14) and Rick Quinn (R-69).

Link to HB 4494
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess119_201 ... s/4494.htm

So, what guns are we all going out to buy now that they are state legal? any suggestions for inexpensive, reliable handguns that were formerly banned?

 

[John Canuck]

YES! Thank god the NRA stepped up and put their muscle behind this criticle legislation :roll:

Restaurant ban repeal... No
Open Carry... No
Parking lot bill... No
Constitutional Carry... No

Better luck next year :roll:

 

[Frost]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

 

[armaborealis]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

I would settle for a reduction in the penalty. Right now violating the no-restaurant carry provision carries a potential THREE YEAR jail sentence. Not only is that crazy for a victimless crime, but it also makes one a prohibited person forever forbidden from touching a firearm under federal law even if you don't spend a day in jail (i.e. the sentence is suspended). Or, at least treat it like Alaska does: keep it illegal to CCW in a bar, but make it an affirmative defense that the place was a restaurant and you didn't drink. Not perfect but a heck of a lot better than the way things are here.

Then again if Ted Vick is any example, the legislators probably just do what they want, ignore the laws which are for the little people, and figure they won't be charged. I don't think Vick has been charged with carrying into an establishment that serves booze even though it can be proven he was at a bar prior to his arrest for DUI.

Still, good to see a burdensome and redundant state licensing scheme disappear as well as the discriminatory melt point law which was explicitly intended to target the rights of low income people.

 

[John Canuck]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

Me too. Maybe if enough people told the NRA what thy wanted, they might get behind a bill that actually impacts gun owners.

 

[PCShogun]

^^^ And is another reason to NOT depend on the NRA to voice your feelings to our politicians, but to call or write them ourselves.

We often wonder why the MINORITY gets so many laws passed in their favor. Its because the MAJORITY sit back and do nothing.

Still, now I can perhaps buy that .22 from Phoenix Arms I've been thinking on.

 

[John Canuck]

^^^ And is another reason to NOT depend on the NRA to voice your feelings to our politicians, but to call or write them ourselves.

We often wonder why the MINORITY gets so many laws passed in their favor. Its because the MAJORITY sit back and do nothing.

Still, now I can perhaps buy that .22 from Phoenix Arms I've been thinking on.

I think it will be a long time before the NRA even attempts to understand my opinion. You know, it makes me wish their dues were much higher so I would feel much better about saving that money.

 

[PCShogun]

Same here John. While my opinion and the NRA's does match on some occasions, it doesn't meet on ALL occasions.

Can someone explain that "Parking Lot Rule"? Not familiar with that one.

 

[fiundagner]

My understanding of the parking lot rule is that you are not allowed to have your personally owned firearms in your personally owned vehicle on your employer?s property unless your employer allows you. Also, most employers (at least all of the ones I have worked for) have a clause in their employment contracts / workplace rules that A) forbids firearms at work or on company property and B) allows them to search you and/or your vehicle at will, without your permission, or in some cases, your presence.

There is also the law about firearms carry forbidden places, in case that is what Canuck was referring to. That law has been interpreted, at least in the case of schools that I am aware of, to forbid firearms in parking lots of forbidden carry areas

 

[PCShogun]

OK, now I recall. I just had not heard of it referred to as a "Parking Lot Rule"

Thanks.

 

[Enjay]

YES! Thank god the NRA stepped up and put their muscle behind this criticle legislation :roll:

Restaurant ban repeal... No
Open Carry... No
Parking lot bill... No
Constitutional Carry... No

Better luck next year :roll:

Hmmm...who are the major opponents of these? perhaps it's time to start focusing on them.

 

[John Canuck]

Jake Knotts seems to be the biggest problem. Now if only someone would replace him in the next election.

 

[melloyello]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

Walked into Moe's SW the other day...Had absolutely no idea that they even served alcohol.

 

[carsontech]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

Walked into Moe's SW the other day...Had absolutely no idea that they even served alcohol.

What!?

You didn't start getting drunk off the fumes of the alcohol being served there? You didn't start acting stupid with your firearm? NO one tried to fight you and steal your weapon!?

This is UNHEARD of!

 

[C_Carson]

I really wish they would have given us Restaurant carry.
They must think if we get in the same building with someone drinking alcohol it will turn in to Miss Kitties Saloon.

Walked into Moe's SW the other day...Had absolutely no idea that they even served alcohol.

What!?

You didn't start getting drunk off the fumes of the alcohol being served there? You didn't start acting stupid with your firearm? NO one tried to fight you and steal your weapon!?

This is UNHEARD of!

LOL

 

[MGMorden]

YES! Thank god the NRA stepped up and put their muscle behind this criticle legislation :roll:

Restaurant ban repeal... No
Open Carry... No
Parking lot bill... No
Constitutional Carry... No

Better luck next year :roll:

Admittedly the other things might have been good, but I just saw this and I'll not look a gift-horse in the mouth. I had previously wanted to purchase one of the little Heritage Rough Rider .22's and couldn't due to this law. Not a top priority but I think we could all agree that it was a bad law that should have been thrown out, and now it has been.

 

[John Canuck]

YES! Thank god the NRA stepped up and put their muscle behind this criticle legislation :roll:

Restaurant ban repeal... No
Open Carry... No
Parking lot bill... No
Constitutional Carry... No

Better luck next year :roll:

Admittedly the other things might have been good, but I just saw this and I'll not look a gift-horse in the mouth. I had previously wanted to purchase one of the little Heritage Rough Rider .22's and couldn't due to this law. Not a top priority but I think we could all agree that it was a bad law that should have been thrown out, and now it has been.

Might have been good? Understated, but yes.

I'm glad you can buy a cheapo low melting point 22 now. And I'm exstatic that the oldest, and largest gun rights group :roll: in the country felt it so important, that they picked that law as the most important to concentrate on. Next year, when they support the repeal of jay walking statutes, will we still be happy that we can cross the street, but cannot have dinner with our sidearm?

 

[melloyello]

Purchase Long Guns across State lines

I like the matching of Federal laws that allows us to purchase long guns among all states, not just the NC, TN and GA.
May be nice to visit a gun shop in VA or FL and be able to buy them on the spot.

BUT agreed, I would gladly give up that convenience as to defend me and my family when we dine out.

 

[Bow_breaker]

I cant see as to how that law effected any firearms. I think I have only seen one ever that met the laws melting point criteria.

 

[lafayette gregory]

YES! Thank god the NRA stepped up and put their muscle behind this criticle legislation :roll:

I'm glad you can buy a cheapo low melting point 22 now. And I'm exstatic that the oldest, and largest gun rights group :roll: in the country felt it so important, that they picked that law as the most important to concentrate on. Next year, when they support the repeal of jay walking statutes, will we still be happy that we can cross the street, but cannot have dinner with our sidearm?

Exactly! Its like the abortion debate. Meaningless, but some sheeple thinks it is important. And career politicians will use it to for political gain.