M2 20 ga

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Is there a disadvantage to use a 20 ga for 3 gun?

Only if the MD is evil. Biggest dissadvantage i see is that ammo is more expensive and there is not as much selection. Tim Ubl shoots one. He couldn't knock down the farthest buckshot targets at High Plains this year. I'd love to find a deal on one to experiment with.
 
Here is a discussion earlier on 20 ga

http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/index.php?/topic/7311-anyone-have-experience-with-a-good-20-ga-for-3-gun/page__fromsearch__1
 
Thanks for the info Jesse and Burk for adding the other the post. My buddy Steve bought the M2 12/21 put the tube extension and we shot it this weekend. Wow great gun but Steve has three bad vertebra in his neck and the recoil was a little to much for him. So he has decided to go with the 20 ga for lighter recoil, that is normally what he shoots. I think Wall hit it on the head in the other post with it being phsycological because Steve even stated that he could probably get use to it but he would still be worried about the recoil because of his injury. So I'm going to buy his M2 12 and he will get the M2 20. I just wanted to make sure the 20 would work for him and he wouldn't be at a disadvantage. Steve will be only shooting local matches an the 3 gun game at my farm so I hope at the local matches target distance won't be to far away for him to knock down.
 
I we tried a light load only 950 fps and had 1 out of 25 Did not eject but Steve felt comfortable with the recoil. Looked at Fiocchi which is a 7 1/2 shot at 1200 fps and Winchester 8 1/2 at 1145 online.

Does anyone have experience with the Fiocchi and Winchester, or can recommend additional light load.

With the light load will there be a problem knocking down targets at distance?
 
I think that federal makes 2.5 dram 20s. I was just at academy last night but I was focused on finding slugs in 12 do I didn't look to close. I would check online though. I just looked at cabelas but they didn't list dram eq. They did have some 3/4 oz #9 from Winchester.
 
Get a Versa-Max, not a 20 gage. The recoil is very light and it is 12 gage. The 20 gage will be a very big handy cap.
 
Get a Versa-Max, not a 20 gage. The recoil is very light and it is 12 gage. The 20 gage will be a very big handy cap.
I shot the Versa-Max Kurt had & was very surpriprised at how light it recoiled, It was pretty impressive all around.
 
Spiff both of them are 1 1/8 oz. Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.

That at 1250 is the standard heavyish 12ga load, going 1100-1200 shouldn't be a problem but he'll have to be more careful on sight picture and might have slight problems at distance. Can always choke up for distance. 950 is really too light for steel, I think, but I don't know that for a fact.
 
950 is really too light for steel, I think, but I don't know that for a fact.
your correct mostly. The new steel poppers at the Ponca range are forward falling, and can be set very light.
The older rear falling poppers would have a problem with that load at any distance.
 
I worked on really light loads with the CZ712, changed springs and while I couldn't get the 950fps loads to function properly I don't think they would have enough power to knock down steel but I could be totally wrong. I've been playing with a 20ga and while it's a real hoot to play with I feel that's about the extent of it. If I wasn't really going the CZ route I'd own a Versa-Max! the recoil is soft, a breeze to load at least the one I got to play with but our Mr. Miller had his hands on it so I'm sure he blessed it with something.

I'd offer the suggestion to really look into the Versa-Max, I'm sure that that Benelli could find a home pretty easy and you'd have the change for a Versa BUT I don't know anything compaired to some of the names who have replied so take my opinion/advice for what it's worth. Later,

Kirk
 
He has some light loads on the way to test for recoil and distance. I talked to him tonight, he's been searching the Versa Max all day and is excited about what he has read. So now it up to him to decide what to do. Either way I pretty sure he'll end up with a good shotgun. Thanks to everyone for all the information.
 
The Versamax, although a "heavy" sgun, will allow your friend to shoot as many rounds (regardless of load) that he can afford to shoot and he can do it ALL DAY LONG!..... all this without the physical repercussions of the Benelli, Beretta, or any other 12ga in the "race gun" marketplace. As a Versa fan/Versa shooter, I can attest that if anyone with cervical/thoracic spine, shoulder or upper body limitation(s) will find the Versamax recoil to be so insignificant that one wouldn't really even consider a 20ga when testing the two side-by-side (in my humble opinion). Now there are Versa Fans & there aren't, it's all truly subjective....I can only say that against physicians "orders" to stop shooting, I tried the Versamax & bought one the same day. This particular shotgun shoots accurately, as well as fast, & (mine) has been highly consistent (1500 rounds plus shot through it to date). If your friend lives in OK, I'll bring him my Versamax & he can shoot as many rounds as he wants through it...this gun (and the greatest shotgun instructor in the universe) changed my life...Thanks for caring so much about your friend that you came to BoomerShooter for opinion(s)...best of luck to your friend...limitations are just challenges....and challenges are game-changers. Julie
 
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