M and P Upgrade?

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I am confused, I have read about guys doing a reduced recoil spring, I would like to understand if that makes that much of a difference before I decide that I need one? and which one is the best one out there? Thanks
 
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Main reason most change the recoil rod and springs is so they can tune the springs to the load and application. If you are shooting lighter ammo, or have slide cuts, you'll need to change the spring rate. I also have a tungston guide rod in mine which adds weight to the front soaking up recoil.
 
I have just been watching a lot of "pro" shooters recently and the recoil on their pistol is sooo minimal, the muzzle barely moves when they shoot. And when they show clear it seems like moving the slide back is so effortless. I guess I just assumed that those two things were and attribute to the springs??
 
It has to do with tuned ammo and spring changes. Many are shooting 147 gr 9mm ammo with less powder, which still makes PF. You can get a 147 gr load to shoot super light, and because you are shooting lighter recoiling ammo, you can drop the spring rates down a lot. Local USPSA shooter has his wifes Glock 34 with a 9lb spring in it. Not sure on the spring rates you can do in an M&P, but you can go lighter than stock.
 
I have gone back to the captive spring. I am running 124gr FMJ with Titegroup. For me the recoil spring was a red herring.
Money was better spent improving the trigger, stippling the back strap and ammo.
Time was better spent at the range with daily dry fire practice.
 
Tuflehundon said:
It has to do with tuned ammo and spring changes. Many are shooting 147 gr 9mm ammo with less powder, which still makes PF. You can get a 147 gr load to shoot super light, and because you are shooting lighter recoiling ammo, you can drop the spring rates down a lot. Local USPSA shooter has his wifes Glock 34 with a 9lb spring in it. Not sure on the spring rates you can do in an M&P, but you can go lighter than stock.
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Those dudes know how to hold a pistol. Seriously, its 99% technique.
Plus its a 9mm for craps sake.

Id say if you want to go lighter go 13#. I like the factory setup in 9mm, and I like a 13# in my M&P40 pro
 
mike cyrwus said:
Those dudes know how to hold a pistol. Seriously, its 99% technique.
Plus its a 9mm for craps sake.

Id say if you want to go lighter go 13#. I like the factory setup in 9mm, and I like a 13# in my M&P40 pro
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True, I probably more than anything need someone to stand over my shoulder and tell me what I am doing wrong!
 
c_hatch said:
True, I probably more than anything need someone to stand over my shoulder and tell me what I am doing wrong!
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Haha have Mike work your trigger over and then have someone watch you.

That's how I learned, not the BEST but it worked

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How difficult is it to swap the recoil spring? I've only seen just the spring not the whole assembly.

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It's a captured spring.
You just remove the guide rod & spring front the gun, then unscrew the small screw on the end. Replace your spring & re-install the screw.
 
If your shooting store bought ammo, you shouldn't "upgrade" your spring. You should only use a reduced power spring with reduced power ammo.
 
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