HR 822 National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act

ToolBox · Nov 21, 2011

I read a post that said this bill has passed the house.
Does anyone know what the status really is on this?

Burk Cornelius · Nov 21, 2011

Yes it did pass the House on Nov. 16. Here is a list of the amendments referenced earlier only this time with their pass/fail noted. ALL OF THEM WERE DEFEATED

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee's (D-Texas) amendment to establish a national database of permit holders (defeated 284-139);
Rep. Jackson Lee's amendment to require permit holders to notify law enforcement officials in other states of their intention to carry a firearm in those states (defeated 299-123);
Rep. Steve Cohen's (D-Tenn.) amendment to exclude permit holders under 21 years of age (defeated 276-150);
Rep. Alcee Hastings' (D-Fla.) amendment, intended to exclude permit holders whose states do not require permit applicants to apply in person (defeated 277-148);
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy's (D-N.Y.) amendment to apply the bill only to states in which the state legislature votes to accept it (defeated 274-147);
Rep. Rob Woodall's (R-Ga.) amendment to allow states to create their own agreements which would exempt them from the bill (defeated 283-140);
Rep. Hank Johnson's (D-Ga.) amendment to apply the bill only to permit holders who were required to participate in a live-fire exercise to be eligible for their permits (defeated 281-144); and,
Rep. David Cicilline's (D-R.I.) amendment to create a patchwork of recognition (and resistance) by applying the bill only between states where the attorneys general, state police chiefs, and secretaries of state have affirmed that their states' carry laws are similar (defeated 277-146).

ToolBox · Nov 21, 2011

ToolBox said:
I read a post that said this bill has passed the house.
Does anyone know what the status really is on this?

Just found out, it looks like its going to the senate.

ToolBox · Nov 21, 2011

Thx burk,
I wonder what the senate will do?

Burk Cornelius · Nov 21, 2011

Honestly, I hope nothing. Not that I am opposed to other states honoring my OK permit BUT because the federal government cannot impose regulations on states. Just because some states (IL) has a stupid law the federal government can't tell them to change it. That is a states right.

If this passed, would that not be the same as the federal government imposing regulations for educational standards (for example) to the state level?

jtischauser · Nov 21, 2011

This stuff gives me a headache. It feels like argue with my wife over me shooting 3 gun this weekend or spending the day with my in-laws.

Burk Cornelius · Nov 21, 2011

Jesse Tischauser said:
This stuff gives me a headache. It feels like argue with my wife over me shooting 3 gun this weekend or spending the day with my in-laws.

I hear ya brother. But it's, more accurately, like arguing with your wife about whether to spend time with your in-laws or my in-laws.

Either way, you are likely going to need some counseling afterwards.

dennishoddy · Nov 21, 2011

Burk Cornelius said:
Rep. Rob Woodall's (R-Ga.) amendment to allow states to create their own agreements which would exempt them from the bill (defeated 283-140);

This is the one that should have passed.

Brian Altenhofel · Nov 22, 2011

dennishoddy said:
[/list]This is the one that should have passed.

I don't have any inside information, but I would bet that there was a lot of pressure to pass it "untainted" by a certain lobbying group.

Yankee_Okie · Jan 10, 2012

FEDERALISM or bust! The Oklahoma state permit is honored in 38 states anyway.....who cares about the Northeast or West Coast, it is a terrible place...except New Hampshire and Maine.