Josh Beauchamp
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Does anyone know anywhere around the Lawton area that is good for hog hunting.
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dennishoddy
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I was down there as a helper for a friend that drew an Elk hunt a couple of years ago. I called the Okla Dept of Wildlife area Biologist for that area, and got some info on hogs on pulblic lands in that area. My buddy got one first day, so I didn't get to take advantage of the info. Call them. They hate feral hogs and will give up all the info they have
Josh Beauchamp
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Thats a good idea. I hadnt thought of that actually. I do believe I know what I will be doing tomorrow in the AM before I head off to the salt mines.
benjamin-benjamin
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i am interested also.... hmm never thought about dept of wildlife.. will have to do that..
Josh Beauchamp
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Talked to the game warden for comanche county this morning. He told me as for public land the biggest concentration around Lawton is the west side of Lake Lawtonka. Have to get a city permit to hunt there and it is archery, shotgun, our black powder only. I thought of checking with Dept. Of Ag. I figured they would know of any farmers with a hog problem.
dennishoddy
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I'm going to have to do a little research, but there is a registery where hog hunters can volunteer their services to farmers/ranchers for hog depredation. Put your name on the list and wait for a call. I know some guys that did, but don't know if they ever got called. Something about the Noble foundation keeps coming to mind.
dennishoddy
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He is correct, there are hogs around Lawtonka. Its owned by the city of Lawton. They have a drawing every year for an elk hunt on it for the elk that get out of the reserve. To date only one cow has been killed in 10 years or so. My buddy put in for it, and spent two days walking the area, while I sat on Mt Scott with a spotting scope looking for elk. I didn't see any elk and neither did he. Cash cow for the city. He did say that he saw a couple of hogs that he disturbed in their bedding area. He also saw people walking through the area coming from the camp ground on the east. They got there by boat. Lawton doesn't shut the area down during hunting seasons. This was 5 years ago, so maybe its changed?
In my viewing of the area, the only way I'd hunt that area is to take a boat made for shallow water, and go up the NW side of the lake. There is a small boat ramp there. It wraps around Mt Scott, and its pretty thick. Tough hunt, but I'd go for it.
dennishoddy
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This brings up an interesting thought. (My thoughts are just for general info, and not related to anybody's posts.)
I'm on several hunting forums, and have seen folks that are land owners state they hate the hogs and want them all gone, blah, blah, blah.
(For the record, I'm a land owner/farmer without the pig problem that has a full time job besides farming)
At the same time, the same landowner wants to charge people to hunt them. They get bashed on the forums.
People are willing to pay to hunt them. A land owner/farmer is no different than a person that has a business selling gun parts, car parts, etc. One has to bust their butt to make ends meet, and I can assure you with floods, hail, tornado's, green bugs, blight, drought, high seed/fertilizer prices, a farmers life is hell. One never knows if you have to belly up the next year or not. Mother nature controls your destiny.
So, I can see where they want to charge.
Hogs are a terrible thing to have on your property. I've been on a hunt South of Lawton. The wheat field was so torn up from the hogs that custom cutters for the wheat didn't want to go into it for fear of tearing up their equipment.
We will never get rid of them. Trapping seems to be the best thing to control them, but that brings another problem. Those trapping them have an option to sell them to high fence areas for canned hunts. Hogs can burrow like a gopher. They get out and here they go. The Pawnee OK area is a prime example. Some guy put in a high fence area for "hunting", and found that they got out. A couple of years later, Pawnee county, and Osage county have them. People released them in the northern part of Kaw lake because they wanted to hunt hogs.
Now, the deer are having to share food with the hogs. Guess what specie is going to suffer.
The USDA has issued an alert for some disease they carry, so now folks wont want to spend the time to go after them.....
Just my little rant on hogs. For a disclaimer, lots of folks hunt and eat hogs with no problem. proper cooking will solve any issue.
benjamin-benjamin
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this is the response i got from the dept. of wildlife
The following link provide regulations regarding hog hunting.
http://www.eregulations.com/oklahoma/hunting/small-game-hogs/#.T4hd1gc2t5I.email
Most areas with major tributaries have hogs visiting them occasionally with areas in the southern portion of the state having the largest concentration. Crosstimbers and other WMAs around Texoma lake have relatively high feral hog populations that come and go depending on hunting pressure.
The following link provide regulations regarding hog hunting.
http://www.eregulations.com/oklahoma/hunting/small-game-hogs/#.T4hd1gc2t5I.email
Most areas with major tributaries have hogs visiting them occasionally with areas in the southern portion of the state having the largest concentration. Crosstimbers and other WMAs around Texoma lake have relatively high feral hog populations that come and go depending on hunting pressure.
dennishoddy
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The ODW is correct Benjamin. Hogs are totally different from deer.
Deer establish an area to live in. They pretty much bed in one, and feed in the other.
Hogs on the other hand are opportunistic feeders. They wander until they find, food, eat, wander, flop down anywhere to rest, and move on. They can be baited by feeders, and get into a routine, but with any pressure at all, they move to new areas. They are also very nocturnal by nature. Very early mornings and evenings are the only way one has any chance of getting one, unless one conducts a hog drive, to get them up and moving. States that allow night vision like Tx to hunt them, have high sucess ratio's. I have a friend that lives just south of Lawton across the border. He routinely spotlights them. Another friend in the Broken Bow area, traps them on a regular basis. .22 to the head, and into the ditch.
The link you posted about a registry to sign up to help eradicate hogs may be the way to go if you don't know any landowners.
The Oklahoma Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry (ODAFF) administers the licensing of feral swine transporters and hunting/handling facilities. Under no circumstances are live feral swine to be sold to non-licensed individuals or released upon non-licensed properties (with the exception of slaughter facilities). For ODAFF administrative rules regarding transporter and facility licensing, please see www.oda.state.ok.us/ais/rules-feralswine.pdf. ODAFF is creating an online directory of feral swine hunters / trappers and landowners seeking feral swine hunting / trapping assistance on their property. This directory should be available by early fall 2011. Please contact Dr. Justin Roach for more information on this directory, or if you have questions about these regulations, or if you would like a licensing application or a list of licensed transporters / facilities. Contact him at
(405) 522-8396 or [email protected]
Deer establish an area to live in. They pretty much bed in one, and feed in the other.
Hogs on the other hand are opportunistic feeders. They wander until they find, food, eat, wander, flop down anywhere to rest, and move on. They can be baited by feeders, and get into a routine, but with any pressure at all, they move to new areas. They are also very nocturnal by nature. Very early mornings and evenings are the only way one has any chance of getting one, unless one conducts a hog drive, to get them up and moving. States that allow night vision like Tx to hunt them, have high sucess ratio's. I have a friend that lives just south of Lawton across the border. He routinely spotlights them. Another friend in the Broken Bow area, traps them on a regular basis. .22 to the head, and into the ditch.
The link you posted about a registry to sign up to help eradicate hogs may be the way to go if you don't know any landowners.
The Oklahoma Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry (ODAFF) administers the licensing of feral swine transporters and hunting/handling facilities. Under no circumstances are live feral swine to be sold to non-licensed individuals or released upon non-licensed properties (with the exception of slaughter facilities). For ODAFF administrative rules regarding transporter and facility licensing, please see www.oda.state.ok.us/ais/rules-feralswine.pdf. ODAFF is creating an online directory of feral swine hunters / trappers and landowners seeking feral swine hunting / trapping assistance on their property. This directory should be available by early fall 2011. Please contact Dr. Justin Roach for more information on this directory, or if you have questions about these regulations, or if you would like a licensing application or a list of licensed transporters / facilities. Contact him at
(405) 522-8396 or [email protected]
Dieseltech09
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I went to High School with one of the GWs for Kay County and he posted this pic on his FB a couple of weeks ago. Not sure 100% sure where he was but I think I have an idea.
dennishoddy
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Yeah, I know where he is going. At least the general area.
Josh Beauchamp
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Hogs are definitely getting bad here in Oklahoma. I live in Lawton but head to Southeast Oklahoma north of a little town called Battiest if anyone has heard of it. Haven't seen hogs in the woods yet but everywhere you go to scout for deer you can see signs of where they have been rooting around in the undergrowth and destroying what little bit of natural food is in the area for deer. Some of the hogs sited down there have gotten big enough that they have initiall been thought to be one of the Black Bear that are making a come back in the woods of Southeast Oklahoma. I am sure that there some monster hogs running around the state. I am sure you all heard about the nearly 800 pounder taken during archey season last year. My dad works with the guy who pop that pig with 3 bolts from a crossbow. Said that damn pig was charging him when the 3rd bolt caught him in the head. With these animals breeding like they do it is just a matter of time until there are some serious encounters with some unhappy piggies. But until then if anyone gets a lead on some hogs post it here. My AR needs something to do aside from punching paper and ringing steel.
dennishoddy
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Another suggestion would be to put a flyer in a local COOP offering your services as a hog hunter.
