HD for woman

Bob Sanders

Bob Sanders

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The GF is now interested in an HD weapon, after a brutal home invasion down the street. For a stop gap, I gave her an 870 20 guage. Gonna try to find some buckshot tomorrow.

I think this is good enough, and I'll increase the tube capacity soon. But it doesn't hurt to get ideas from people that know more than me. What do you guys think?

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I'm not a fan boy of a pump gun for HD.

#1, if your shot in one arm, how are you gonna pump it? Its possible, but difficult. Nobody brave enough to bust in your front door is gonna run when you "Hollywood" rack the pump gun. It just doesn't happen. In fact, you have just given away your position, and tactically its not good to do that.

Semi-auto, can be used with either hand.

Semi-auto, if you have to use one handed, you can use the other to drag a loved one out of the way, help yourself if wounded or whatever.

Find a place to take cover, call 911 and do what you have to do to protect your family. Don't go "clearing the house".
 
Glock 17 with TLR-2 HL. Anybody can hit anything with a laser. Go with the TLR-2G if you want more daylight visible laser.

If you insist in a shotgun fill it with federal flight control buck shot. I'd only trust a gun I've shot a bunch like my M2.
 
However this shakes out, she will have to have more than a 30 minute block of instruction. I like the handgun idea, if she had evervshot one. The pump has limitations too, but I'm not going to show her the Hollywood pump. Just click safety and squeeze trigger. I should probably set her up with my O\U, but I hate the idea of only 2 rounds. I guess my best bet now, with what I have, is the 20 ga pump and lots of practice, until she can get a handgun that suits her. I really want her to get CCW for her work. She is out at odd hours and sometimes bad areas as a hospice nurse.

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Putting a laser on a gun doesn't make it an accurate gun. Proper training and technique is what's needed a hell of a lot more than a laser sight.
You already have an XDM so start with that and then take her to a range that has different options to try out and once she picks the one that's right for her, put focus on training and proper technique using sights. Take her to a couple pistol matches to induce a little stress as well.

If she's going to carry, she needs to know what she's doing and be confident in her abilities.
 
Matt Rigsby said:
Putting a laser on a gun doesn't make it an accurate gun. Proper training and technique is what's needed a hell of a lot more than a laser sight.
You already have an XDM so start with that and then take her to a range that has different options to try out and once she picks the one that's right for her, put focus on training and proper technique using sights. Take her to a couple pistol matches to induce a little stress as well.

If she's going to carry, she needs to know what she's doing and be confident in her abilities.
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Putting a laser on a gun is instant training for someone that never shoots and doesn't know how to align sights especially in the dark.
 
Jesse Tischauser said:
Putting a laser on a gun is instant training for someone that never shoots and doesn't know how to align sights especially in the dark.
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That laser won't help a trigger that's jerked.
 
I think one thing to consider is the fact that we all shoot with hearing protection on. Has anyone ever shot, under stress, without hearing protection on? I never have. Considering that a home invasion does occur and a gun is fired, i would figure that the sound alone could induce a flinch by the best of shooters. Let alone that it could be at night and the person being startled awake by the intruder, most likely will not be at optimal precision focus. I dont think a laser is a bad idea. Ive seen below average shooters at H&H put a decent group together with a laser despite their non lazered targets had more shots outside the target than in.
 
Jared Carpenter said:
I think one thing to consider is the fact that we all shoot with hearing protection on. Has anyone ever shot, under stress, without hearing protection on?
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Yes. I had to in the Army when on patrol or ambushes. You have to hear whats going on and sometimes you don't have time to stuff the plugs in.

People in stressful situations report that they never actually heard the shots. There is a medical term for this, and I've seen it in the past but can't find it tonight.

No matter if your brain muffles it or not, there will be hearing loss. Depending on the situation, it can result in almost total loss in one shot, or over time the hearing goes away, and you don't notice it personally, but your spouse brings it to your attention down the road.

Trust me on this.

Hearing loss due to being a victim in a gun fight is much better than being 6' under.
 
We worked with the 870 some today. It's a youth model, so it's short, light, and quick handling for her. Even got in a round of trap with my 12 guage JM Pro auto. Then tried a little dry fire with my XDm. Now she is making eyes at my AR. Oh dear....
 
Buy her the gun she'll take to the range and practice with. Whether for HD or daily carry, a gun she doesn't like to shoot will be the one she doesn't shoot and, by extension, be the one she has no idea how to use proficiently. Frankly, when it comes to HD guns, my order of preference goes: rifle, handgun, shotgun. You may feel differently but that's what I've sussed out for myself on the topic.
 
I agree with the practice and comfort level of the different platforms. People will use first, if given the choice, what they are confident in. It's interesting though that my order of HD preference is completely 180 degrees. For us, it's shotgun, pistol and then the rifle. Where we are at, I don't need a rifle round in the neighbors house if I can keep from it. But with that being said, you never know until that dreaded moment arrives, how things will play out and what may or may not end up in your hands at the time. Know how to use them all.
 
Mine is M240B, M2HB, and if I must the MK19 will suffice. Those are what I have the most rounds through and the most practice with. I do agree with Michael Ray. Whatever is most comfortable using proficiently will be the best choice for her. Training is always the best tool and having a good plan.
 
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