Getting Sprung

Josh Smash

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I am looking to play with reduced power striker/hammer springs with trigger weight in mind. I understand that reduced power springs can lead to light primer strikes. If one wanted to test reliability against a harder primer, what would be the best/hardest primers to test against?
 
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compare apples to apples. Yes 41's are hard and they are also for rifles not striker fired pistols
 
Gunnut 23 said:
compare apples to apples. Yes 41's are hard and they are also for rifles not striker fired pistols
Darn. That was my plan to shoot major with my g19.

So, the general guideline is, if it ignite Walmart tulammo it should be able to run anything? Thanks for the info
 
Josh Smash said:
Darn. That was my plan to shoot major with my g19.

So, the general guideline is, if it ignite Walmart tulammo it should be able to run anything? Thanks for the info
If you are talking about a Glock 19, then also order a lightened extended striker with your springs. That will take care of any light strike issues. I like the Zev striker, but there are tones of them out there.

http://zevtechnologies.com/ZEV-Skeletonized-Striker-Small_3
 
you dont need to run 41 primers to shoot major. you totally lost me, shooting major pf in a 19?
 
Gunnut 23 said:
you dont need to run 41 primers to shoot major. you totally lost me, shooting major pf in a 19?
Sorry, bad attempt at humor on my end. I never planed to to rifle primers in pistol casings and vice versa.

Tuflehundon (Rob Gee) said:
If you are talking about a Glock 19, then also order a lightened extended striker with your springs. That will take care of any light strike issues. I like the Zev striker, but there are tones of them out there.

http://zevtechnologies.com/ZEV-Skeletonized-Striker-Small_3
Ok, this parallels another topic I had questions about. I have read so many opposing arguments regarding using light springs and reducing mass in AR hammers. I am guessing the physics are the same between Glock strikers and AR hammers. So, correct me if I am wrong-

Light spring w/ standard striker/hammer = potential light strikes.
Light spring w/ light striker/hammer = corrects light strikes, good to go
Standard spring w/ light striker/hammer = ???
 
Josh Smash said:
Sorry, bad attempt at humor on my end. I never planed to to rifle primers in pistol casings and vice versa.


Ok, this parallels another topic I had questions about. I have read so many opposing arguments regarding using light springs and reducing mass in AR hammers. I am guessing the physics are the same between Glock strikers and AR hammers. So, correct me if I am wrong-

Light spring w/ standard striker/hammer = potential light strikes.
Light spring w/ light striker/hammer = corrects light strikes, good to go
Standard spring w/ light striker/hammer = ???

With a Glock, yes. Light springs won't move the standard striker fast enough, so you have the potential to have light strikes. Light springs with the lightened /extended strker will strike as hard or harder than the stock set up, depending on brands.
 
Josh Smash said:
Ok, this parallels another topic I had questions about. I have read so many opposing arguments regarding using light springs and reducing mass in AR hammers. I am guessing the physics are the same between Glock strikers and AR hammers. So, correct me if I am wrong-

Light spring w/ standard striker/hammer = potential light strikes.
Light spring w/ light striker/hammer = corrects light strikes, good to go
Standard spring w/ light striker/hammer = ???
It's no so much the force of impact as it is hammer speed. Primers need to be "whacked" not just pushed otherwise they'd go off when you seated them.

When you lighten up the hammer spring ONLY you slow the hammer speed down. Obviously you need both speed AND force to make it work, but that's the gist of it anyway.
 
Definitely Deplorable said:
It's no so much the force of impact as it is hammer speed. Primers need to be "whacked" not just pushed otherwise they'd go off when you seated them.

When you lighten up the hammer spring ONLY you slow the hammer speed down. Obviously you need both speed AND force to make it work, but that's the gist of it anyway.
1. For an AR trigger, if one were to cut the "tail" off the hammer, would that lighten it enough to regain the speed needed for reliability?

2. If the hammer was lightened and the standard spring remained the same, would that increase reliability?
 
Would there be any reason to not cut the tail off?
The only thing I could guess is that the tail stops the hammer from hitting the top of the disconnector.
 
All of mine have the tail cut off, with JP springs and trigger assembly's and they have not had light strikes. Forge ahead and get that tail cut off.
All the cool kids that play hard do it, so it has to be good.
 
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