SASS?, sounds like fun and I'd like to see a math one day, but then I'd have to buy more guns... wiat, that might not be a bad idea! I just shoot for accuracy, as much as I can anyway. Have an Remington O3A3 that was Dads that I want to try and use fire-form cases for and a Garrand (Springfield) from a DCM Match that is pretty damn good as it is. I do want to head out to MCRC one day, but from what I hear, I'd have to be "sponsored" for the first time at least.