BenM
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BenM
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I'm thinking no. Let everybody in and tell us how it's done.
AlannaC
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Brady's driving is like his shooting. All over the place.
Watching Brady drive is similar to watching my 95 year old grandma with Alzheimer's drive.
Just a few of many jokes told in the truck while following him.
Watching Brady drive is similar to watching my 95 year old grandma with Alzheimer's drive.
Just a few of many jokes told in the truck while following him.
Rockon71385
Founding Member
He said I drove too fast when he had to follow me to Tulsa. You know who says the same thing? My mom.AlannaC said:
On a more serious note, I'm proud of all of you guys for how you shot today and how you conducted yourselves as competitors. Match conditions are inherently stressful, especially if you care about your performance. The more you care, the more stressful it can become. All of you guys are getting better. USPSA matches test a HUGE array of skills ranging from actual shooting skills to match specific stuff that has nothing to do with shooting, like how to run backwards with a gun. Don't get discouraged if your match performance wasn't what you think it should be. That just means you have high standards for yourself, and that you haven't learned all the skills in the toolbox yet. It takes a lot of matches and a lot of practice before you start shooting matches with 6-7 good stages. I promise you, keep practicing and we will get there.
It's extremely important to note what you're doing well, and give your self credit for improving. All of you guys impressed me in one regard or another today. As for what you did badly or what you can improve on, make a note of it and make a plan for how to fix it, but don't beat yourself up over it. There will always be another match, and successful matches start on the training range and in the dry-fire area. Your match performance will reflect the time you spend training.
All of you are now among the group of gun owners who actually have enough balls(or ovaries) to go out and test their skills in public instead of hiding at home and collecting guns while reading magazine articles about the stopping power of 9mm vs. 45 ACP. It takes guts to go out and compete at something you're not great at yet. Good job to all of you for being part of that group. Now that you know where you stand, you can start getting better, which is the REALLY fun part.
I hope everybody had fun today. Thanks to Matt, Greg, and all the guys that set up the match yesterday. The stages were challenging and had lots of options, which makes them a lot of fun to shoot.
Crypticscribbles
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Okay, I'm turning 21 in about a year and a half. I shoot a glock 17 and I just can't justify getting a 34 only for a better sight radius. My plan is to just trick out the 17 for limited. But also..... I'm considering getting into the revolver or single stack division.... someone talk me out of it
Keep the G17 around for Production or 3-Gun. No need to trick out a gun that can only shoot minor if you plan to shoot Limited or move into Revo or SS. If you want to stick with Limited, get at least a 40 so you can shoot major and get full credit for those D, C, and B hits. The G35 is a good option if you want to stick with a Glock. Many other good options out there as well. Just my 2 cents, YMMV.Crypticscribbles said:
Scott Hearn
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Revo is probably the hardest division and that's what makes it a blast. You have to plan every stage and shoot every shot for an A. I would still be shooting revo but just don't want to build an 8 shot gun for it. Too much invested in my 625 already and the rule change basically obsoleted it. I had a perfectly fine SS gun in the safe and that's the next best thing to revo so there I landed. There are some A, M and even a GM that shoot regularly in matches all over Oklahoma. You'll be in good company if you join their ranks.Crypticscribbles said:
You said talk you out of it... G17 is a good gun, I say get get some good target sights on it and run that thing in production. Production is a great division that seems to attract plenty of talented guys, so you'll have plenty of heat to gauge your self against. The sight radius is still good and the gun is still more capable than you are. Get some nice pouches and run it for a couple years. Plus 9mm is cheaper to run than any other caliber so you'll be able to practice more, so you'll get better faster. If you'll dead set on decking it out, you can still run basepads, do some stippling and tin coat the barrel in production. So you'll be semi decked out.Crypticscribbles said:
Ultimately shoot what you'll enjoy, thats the only thing that'll keep you motivated.
Scott Hearn
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^^^ That right there. It's all about that.Jcawthon said:
A word of advice. If you land in revo or single stack and stay awhile, you will be bored when going back to Limited. I got to where Limited was a "breather" or for those times when I wanted to be lazy and take a break from stage breakdown and tight shots. Limited will be boring for you if you hang in a tough division for awhile. For a long time I didn't understand why so many M and GM class shooters hang out in production. Now I do.
dennishoddy
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I followed Jesse out to the OKC gun range one day. I can see the similarities and I wasn't in the truck thank God.AlannaC said:
dennishoddy
Moderator
I've only shot production once. Started out as L10 because I bought a 1911 in .45 with a leather holster and had nothing else. Newb for sure, first match, but like every other newb, learned after the first match and after saving enough $$ bought into the limited gun with accessories. Couple of years later, the limited gun crapped out one weekend, and went back to the .45 L10 gun to shoot production to say I'd been there, done that.Definitely Deplorable said:
Man, what a difference. Instead of one mag change, there were 4, and timing/strategy is the name of the game.
I'm lazy, going back to limited after finding junk in the extractor pocket.
I shoot for fun and getting around you folks for some friendly banter is a WHOLE lot more fun than worrying about some silly mag changes at this stage of my game. :triniti:
Scott Hearn
Well-Known Fanatic
Exactly. I like the challenge. I used to break out the Limited gun just because Cyrwus made it way too awesome to just set in the safe all the time. But in almost all field courses you are looking at one reload and that's it. And usually there are a couple of places you can do it. Just too easy. That said it's the perfect division for a new shooter, they can concentrate on shooting and not gaming. Beside most noobs want to load those mags up and hose anyway. Limited lets them.dennishoddy said:
dennishoddy
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I'm all about hosing, and missed my home range hose event. Crap happens.
This is just a plethora of misinformation.
Limited is one of the most gaming divisions there is. Production & SS are way less so, simply because of all the mag changes required & gear restrictions. Open & limited are divisions of gaming, production & ss are divisions of stage breakdown. They are ALL divisions of strategy & there is NOTHING easy about any of them. They each have their own little quirks that will bite you in the ass if you let it. Limited maj vs limited minor? Do you want points or capacity. In open you can shoot major or minor both with 9mm so no capcity advantage, do you want points or less recoil? No choices like this in production only stage planning so you better be good at it.
Limited is one of the most gaming divisions there is. Production & SS are way less so, simply because of all the mag changes required & gear restrictions. Open & limited are divisions of gaming, production & ss are divisions of stage breakdown. They are ALL divisions of strategy & there is NOTHING easy about any of them. They each have their own little quirks that will bite you in the ass if you let it. Limited maj vs limited minor? Do you want points or capacity. In open you can shoot major or minor both with 9mm so no capcity advantage, do you want points or less recoil? No choices like this in production only stage planning so you better be good at it.
I think it depends on your goal. If you simply are shooting to have fun and don't care too much about winning then limited will be easier and less thinking simply cause you'll be able to walk through a stage and do a lot of fun shooting without having to plan too much, if thats what you're in to.... If you're wanting to be competitive and win, and that is your goal, all divisions are very technical so pick the one you like. Just my .02Wall said:
I don't disagree with that. I was just pointing out the fact that there is no way shape or form that limited is an "easy" division. If you're going to be competitive in any of the divisions you're going to have to work for it. Each has certain aspects to it that makes things more difficult than the others whether it be planning around capacity or shaving off a half second here & here & there by not shooting from a certain spot & taking this target from back here etc (gaming). Why do think limited & open shooters get so disappointed when there are no options on stages? When you shoot from this box at these targets then move to this box & shoot these etc. You've taken away the thing that makes the division competitive & interesting.Jcawthon said:
PeteMcGuire1881
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He used the the word "plethora" my favorite word! NICE!Wall said:
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Rockon71385
Founding Member
If you want to get better, pick one gun/division combo and stick to it. Work at the skills needed to succeed in that division until you've made significant progress, then think about doing something else. Every time you switch guns or change equipment, it takes time to get used to the new stuff and you generally suffer a setback in terms of progress. Shooting the same gun for years isn't exciting, but it's what most of the best shooters have done if you ask them.
If you want to get the best match scores you can, don't shoot a G17 in limited. Yes, you can use it to shoot limited. You could probably also use the top of the slide to drive nails, but it's not the right tool for either job. Stop worrying about your gun and focus on what YOU need to do to get better.
Just my $0.02
If you want to get the best match scores you can, don't shoot a G17 in limited. Yes, you can use it to shoot limited. You could probably also use the top of the slide to drive nails, but it's not the right tool for either job. Stop worrying about your gun and focus on what YOU need to do to get better.
Just my $0.02
