Firing of first ever 3-D printed gun

[LiveFreeorDie]

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/05/06/shots-fired-from-world-first-3d-printed-gun/?intcmp=features

Looks like they also made a 30rd magazine and called it the "Cuomo clip"!

 

[Tigerstripe]

i ask the senator "whats the hubbub bub". its an single shot handgun just like the liberator we dropped in europe to help the resistance fighters.

why they dont understand that if they do get our guns we will do what the IRA and taliban do, make bombs, i dont know. (if we have to fight tyranny).

 

[armaborealis]

Cue picture of grumpy cat saying "good."

 

[bigfutz]

And the State Department takes him DOWN!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenbe ... violation/

 

[Midnight Raver]

Well that didn't take long, did it? :lol:

I bet you could make a single action revolver like that with no trigger, just a hammer to pull back and let go of. They're going to have to get rid of the 3D printers themselves to stop people from making ANYTHING at all.

 

[armaborealis]

And the State Department takes him DOWN!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenbe ... violation/

They can't stop the signal. The files (with good checksums) are posted on multiple mirrors and seeded to multiple streaming sites now. Horse has left the barn.

 

[John Canuck]

I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like the zip gun hasn't been figured out before.

 

[Tigerstripe]

do you think anyone has had the idea to use a mig or tig welder instead of the plastic injection?

 

[rotarymike]

They have metal deposition 3d printers already. Just expensive.

To be honest, the DefCad gun isn't something you could really print on a makerbot or reprap cheap 3d printer. Their printer was $8000 used (from ebay no less). I think if you were trying to, say, assassinate someone with a one-shot wonder and had $8k lying around to do it you could find a solution no matter what.

 

[armaborealis]

They have metal deposition 3d printers already. Just expensive.

To be honest, the DefCad gun isn't something you could really print on a makerbot or reprap cheap 3d printer. Their printer was $8000 used (from ebay no less). I think if you were trying to, say, assassinate someone with a one-shot wonder and had $8k lying around to do it you could find a solution no matter what.

I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like the zip gun hasn't been figured out before.

The thing is that in two years, the printers will cost $6K. Then $4K. Then they'll hit the point where they are household items. I'd wager that within a decade or so, the tools to print up a zip gun will be in at least a third of homes. A zip gun requires some sort of skill and research to put together. The plastic liberator can be made by anyone who can hit "print."

Sen Schumer and Mayor Bloomberg don't give a elephant dung about stopping career criminals that know how to make a zip gun. They are very worried about pissed off middle class tax slaves who have always done "the right thing" and been carefully cultivated in the public schools (isolated from any sort of hands-on mechanical programs, potential violence, etc) being able to easily access firearms on a moment's whim.

 

[Tigerstripe]

the Staples chain has commited to having 3d printers on the shelf. $1,200.

i watched an info wars vid with Cody, the maker. i think he said the handgun could be made on a $1200 printer.

he had rented an $8000 printer and the company he rented it from was insecure about what he was doing,(who told them), so they called the FBI.

he wasnt doing anything wrong, but then the BATFE decieded the first amendment didnt include sharing information, and made them take down the info site, after over 100,000 downloads had been made worldwide.

 

[rotarymike]

State department, not the BATFE.

First Amendment does not apply to sharing certain information with restricted countries; otherwise you'd never be able to convict a spy.

DefCad's first deal was to rent a commercial grade 3d printer from Stratasys. The manufacturer got skittish about the whole printed gun thing and terminated the lease. Then, they've been allowed to use someone's personally owned printer in the area.

State Department letter: http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/09/bluep ... aken-down/
DefCad loses lease: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/3d-gun-blocked/

 

[armaborealis]

State department, not the BATFE.

First Amendment does not apply to sharing certain information with restricted countries; otherwise you'd never be able to convict a spy.

This is being done under the ITAR, which was written in the pre-internet days. ITAR is written extremely broadly. Providing any article of possibly useful military equipment, training, or know-how can theoretically be regulated under ITAR. Theoretically, a youtube video about how to assemble an AR-15 lower or a NRA Basic Rifle course (if provided to a non-American) also fall under ITAR.

It will be interesting to see if the SCOTUS blows a huge hole in the ITAR regulations on First Amendment grounds if the Secretary of State tries to push this. There even could be implications for the GCA 68 or NFA 34.

 

[John Canuck]

Schumer will freak out about anything. Someone should tell him how easy it is to make stuff that blows up. He needs medication.

 

[Tigerstripe]

Schumer will freak out about anything. Someone should tell him how easy it is to make stuff that blows up. He needs medication.

thats what ive been saying.