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Tactica

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Anyone using FIreclean?

Some of the testimonial is pretty strong. Matt Burkett pointed me at the stuff. I have a few bottles and just started putting it through it's paces... so far so good on everything I've tried it with. Crazy how good it cleans and conditions on my open pistol and rifle.

Just curious if others are making use of it and if others have put it through longer trials and found any good / bad results.
http://www.cleanergun.com/

Cheers,
 
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I have some. I didn't like the how runny it is. I'm not quite sure what it can do that my mobile one won't do? I can apply oil every 30-40 rounds. I'm not sure there is a real application for anything fancy or expensive in our games.
 
When we set our guns in racks the oil likes to run south. I don't want a low viscosity oil ppooling up in my buffer tube or recoil spring asssembly in my rifle or shotgun respectively.

With that said I talked to the owner about his lube several times. I think it has some merit as far as the lube sticks to the parts even after you wipe it off.

Here is a very positive review I found after doing a little googling.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/related-gear-equipment/149230-fireclean-gun-oil-review-print.html
 
50 oz for $336!!!???? WTF? Do they come out and clean your guns too? Sounds like the marketing department just graduated from MBA school.

Mobile 1. If you want to get fancy there is a grade 4 mobile 1. I put the oil in handy 10 mL syringes with blunt tip needles. Works great. 1 quart lasts a long time.

Brownells sells some needle droppers that work well also.
 
[background=transparent]We wanted to follow up on this post, and thank you OP for trying the product out. We are not going to argue over the points, but do want to illuminate what the issues are with gun lubrication - particularly on AR and 1911 variants - and outline some of the results we've been able to deliver for some very demanding shooters, not just on the "square range" but also some active duty (and former) SOCOM members. [/background]

[background=transparent]Mobil 1 works fine as a lubricant- obviously it needs to given the expense of some of the engines it lubricates! Mobil 1 is designed for modern engines, with oil pumps, oxygen sensors, etc. An AR-15 is an incredibly unforgiving system to lubricate, because the bolt carrier group alone is dealing with all three types of friction: gear (unlocking of bolt lugs), sliding (the reciprocating carrier), and rolling (the rotation of the bolt within the carrier) while lacking the sealed lubrication of an engine. And while it’s doing all that, it’s being blasted with hot carbon that finds its way into the surface of anodized aluminum and phosphate steel. We learned that because we’ve been shooting ARs and M-16s since the early 1980s. You should think of lubricating a gun more like a bike chain than a car engine. And we suspect if you interviewed the Tour de France riders, Mobil 1 is probably not their choice for chain lubrication. [/background]

[background=transparent]You can learn more about lubrication concepts at http://www.weareoil....lubrication.htm and
http://www.stle.org/...on/default.aspx[/background]

The issue with Mobil 1 is that it works as a lubricant but it doesn't condition the metal, nor does it do a very good job of removing carbon fouling from gun parts. If you put Mobil 1 on a bolt carrier, and FireClean on another, and stand it on a piece of a paper, guess which one will leave a massive stain ring on the paper.

There's not much we can do to convince folks who spend $10,000 a year on 5.56 ammo and balk at $14.95 for a year's worth of oil that we can save them a good amount of time and make sure they don't have to re-oil their gun every time they use it. One of our range customers has a rental 16” carbine AR that typically goes 4,000 rounds between cleanings and reapplication of FireClean. The gun is mostly dried out by that point, but the contact surfaces between the upper receiver and bolt carrier are free of carbon fouling. It cycles smoothly, without the gritty, scratchy sound that most ARs have, and cleans up easily. The same range is able to clean their MP5SD with Q Tips and paper towels instead of scrapers and noxious chemicals, and do so in 30 minutes, not 90. We applied FireClean to an FN SLP piston that fired 850+ rounds in 2 days. We came back 2 weeks later and wiped that piston off with a dry paper towel- no oil. You can see that demo here:


We have customers that routinely go 3,500 rounds on their STI pistols between cleanings. I think you would be hard-pressed to do that with synthetic motor oil. The reason why is because FireClean impacts the carbon fouling’s ability to bond to the metal. These same Master class shooters tell us personally that they feel a difference in the smoothness of the gun.

FireClean has been a generous supporter of the shooting sports in our infancy, having co-sponsored the Bianchi Cup, the CMMG Midwest 3-Gun, the FNH 3-Gun Championship, and the upcoming Fallen Brethren match in just over 4 months. In addition, of the top 15 shooters at FNH, we know that at least half of them are using FireClean. The 1911 that won Camp Perry this year had FireClean on it, and had to be lubricated a third as much as it normally did before the shooter started using FireClean.

For $14.95, FireClean can clean, condition, and lubricate a significant number of guns for a year- that's what shipping alone would be just to have a pistol slide coated with IonBond. For the cost of a round of 5.56, you can give your AR a thorough cleaning in 5-10 minutes with Q tips and a paper towel or two, and a few drops of FireClean oil. The worst part of shooting for most people is the cleaning and lubrication. Our goal is to make that easier and less frequent.
 
FireClean said:
For the cost of a round of 5.56, you can give your AR a thorough cleaning in 5-10 minutes with Q tips and a paper towel or two, and a few drops of FireClean oil. The worst part of shooting for most people is the cleaning and lubrication. Our goal is to make that easier and less frequent.
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less frequent is good, but i'm not sure my guns would run right if i cleaned them...
 
Wormydog1724- the first test we ran involved a 12.5" DI upper, an AAC M4-2000, and ~700 rounds of Green Tip in 4 hours. After 420 rounds suppressed and 250 unsuppressed, the phosphate bolt and carrier wiped off with a dry paper towel 2 days later. There was some coking on the tail, but not as bad as it normally would be at that round count. There was no O-ring on the extractor, either.

As for the 22LR, if you go to cleanergun.com and click on Photos, you can see what it does to keep 22LR guns clean. Thanks!
 
One more question, how would a light coating on .22lr suppressor baffles work? Scraping the crud off the baffles after a 1000 round day really sucks. If fireclean would make that part of my life easier, I'd be sold.
 
We used a copper "scrunchie" Brillo pad to clean off this Gemtech. If you allowed it to soak in overnight, it would be easier. I haven't seen this can since we cleaned it so I'm not sure how easily it wiped off in subsequent range outings.
The 3 baffles were all equally filthy when we started- this photo shows the progression from dirty to clean.

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Oh so you applied it after shooting, during cleaning... Interesting. I wonder how FireClean would do in an ultrasonic cleaner with baffles,, and brass casings for reloading..
 
Wormydog1724 said:
Oh so you applied it after shooting, during cleaning... Interesting. I wonder how FireClean would do in an ultrasonic cleaner with baffles,, and brass casings for reloading..
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We've removed fouling from Glock parts at room temperature within 30 seconds that were in $10,000 ultrasonic tank and declared "clean". Not sure on the brass cases.

We've tried it in an ultrasonic tank, and we don't recommend it. The oil seems to dampen the vibrations you need, and it gets on the outside of your grip, slide, etc. The results with time and room temperature are just fine.

If any of you have 22LR suppressors, we'd encourage you to pre-treat clean baffles before you hit the range. We suspect that your cleanup time will be much faster. If you can wipe off a pre-treated FN SLP piston with a dry paper towel after 800+ rounds, think what it would do for your baffle stack.....

We do want to cover cost again. Would you put the least expensive tires you could find on a performance car? We see shooters with $3,000 pistols, $2,000 optics, etc. Spending a few dollars more to ensure weapon reliability and slash your cleaning/maintenance time seems pretty logical to us. We've seen what should be very reliable weapons go bolt action at a couple of major matches (due to magazines, ammunition, or lack of lubrication) and we'd encourage you to review some of the testimonials we have posted at http://www.cleanergun.com/Testimonials.html
 
Fireclean,

How does it do on the forcing cone and cylinder faces on revolvers?

Does it repel lead deposits from plain lead bullets like it does with carbon?

Also I noticed your pic of a double shotgun where it appeared to remove rust. Does it also remove blueing from carbon steel?
 
Scott Hearn said:
Fireclean,

How does it do on the forcing cone and cylinder faces on revolvers? We haven't tested that, but others have reported good results.

Does it repel lead deposits from plain lead bullets like it does with carbon? We don't know.

Also I noticed your pic of a double shotgun where it appeared to remove rust. Does it also remove blueing from carbon steel? Not on anything we've ever tried, even after scrubbing an insurance loss Browning Superposed with FireClean and fine steel wool.
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FireClean,
Is this product available, or going to be available, anywhere locally around OKC? I would like to try it.
 
I got some coming to try out. I'm gonna coat my shotgun and rifle bolts and see how it goes. You're welcome to do the same if you like before you buy.
 
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