Diamondback DB-15: any experience or opinions on this?

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Wondering if any of you have any experience or opinions on the Diamondback DB-15. I am considering purchasing one in 300 ACC Blackout.
Opinions I have read on the www seem okay.

thanks

-K
 
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I don't think that they are a bad rifle. Back before the great gun rush of '12 they were actually a great deal. Nowadays though I think there are better guns to be found for around the same price. Plenty of people out there trying to sell their 300 blackout right now. You can almost be certain that the people selling their B.O. because they need some cash probably didn't have the cash or desire to pump more than 500 rounds through it. It's a buyers market for firearms right now.
 
so Tony, would a NIB piece for $650 be a good buy? I think this same rifle retails or retailed for about $1100 according to Diamondback's website. Did this company sell out or something??



It is auction no. 454456043 on Gunbroker.com
 
That seems like a good price. I will say just to play devils advocate for you....if you are buying this 300 B.O. for the sole purpose of having a 300 B.O. then fine. But There are definitely better guns out there for not a whole lot more. This particular rifle leaves lots of room for improvement and the description in the sellers statement is very vague and contradicting on some of the info. All that being said $650 ain't bad but let's call it $700 after shipping and ffl fees. Lastly, and you knew this had to come up posting on a forum....what has you sold on the 300 BO round?
 
I'm interested in the 300 ACC black out because of versatility and looking into the future. I would use the 300 for hunting big game initially. Then if I desire to shoot the rifle in competition I can put on a 5.56 upper. I understand the cost and availability of 300 ACC BO ammo is an issue today. I'm looking to the increased popularity of this caliber and think ammo will be less of an issue over time. And I would reload that round.

I am not going to shoot 1000 rounds in a month. I will be initially a casual shooter of this rifle, so I might shoot it once a month and maybe 100-200 rounds of 300 ACCBO

I do not own any AR rifles at this time, so any suggestions on make/model would be helpful, and any leads on rifles. You wrote there are better rifles on the market. That seems to be the case of every firearm one considers to purchase. Money, as always, is the limiting factor. If you could explain why I should not consider this rifle that would be helpful.

My max budget is $1000. I don't need a Mercedes Benz level rifle. I don't want a Chevy. Mid level is what I think would best suit me.

Can someone build me a rifle to my needs considering my budget that would be better than the Diamondback which would cost me ca. $700 after shipping and FTF fees?

BTW I contacted the seller and confirmed that the rifle has a 1-7 twist.
 
There is too much info to tell you in just a short post written on a cell phone. I'm sure others will start chiming in with their opinions too but for now the major points that I would leave you with is
1. Don't rush into something. Like I said it's a buyers market right now.
2. 300 BO is a good round. I like it alot but not as a hunting round. It's pro are that it is more compatible with a standard AR but the performance gains you see with it are minimal in comparison to 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel. To me the B.O. shines as a SBR personal defense weapon ideally with a suppressor. Oklahoma is windy the 300 blackout sucks in the wind.
3. Start with a 5.56/.223 platform. You can kill deer sized game all day with the right bullet. Ammo is much cheaper allowing you to practice more.
4. Listen to people on here not me in particular but this site has a lot of competitors on it with tons of great knowledge. If you don't know I'll just tell you that 90% of cops or military guys don't know elephant dung about shooting. That's my opinion take it however you want but I'd rather listen to a cop or a military guy that is also a competitor.
37. Buy once cry once. Of course there is always something bigger and better out there but if you do some reading listening and if possible lay some hands on these things and shoot them. You will find a happy medium some were. And YOU can build your own AR. They are supper easy. With youtube and an afternoon you could finish your very own.
 
thanks for your insights Tony. I am not one to rush into anything. I am open to more suggestions, opinions and challenges.

I have the 30-06, 270 win, 243 win, and 375 H&H I use for hunting now. All bolt guns. So perhaps 300 ACC is not a good starting point in the AR platform. I was thinking when I pig hunt I would be able to get off more than one shot with a semi-auto. But I have used my 12 ga shotgun and slugs and achieved this. And everyone knows (or has an idea) how devastating a 12 bore slug is. So why invest in technology that is not really needed? (I won't go into my pig hunting over the last year on this thread; see hunting forum in the future).

And I am still not 100% sure I'll ever get an AR. But I have had it in mind for 2-3 years and still not acted. Partly because of money, and partly because I am just overwhelmed by all the jargon and different components and options available, and partly I am not sure how much I would really use it.

During the last year I have scarcely had time or opportunity to shoot IPSC, which before was something I participated regularly. Having shattered my wrist on April Fool's day last spring, I am at last pain free enough to shoot a pistol and bow again. And when I get my knee sorted out, I'll be able to comfortably run a bit again. Well, I have rambled enough.

I wish everyone a truly thankful Holiday.

Kevin
 
Kevin, I'm considering selling my lever and bolt guns and going to the AR platform exclusively for hunting. A 6.5 Grendel with the proper bullet construction will easily take anything up to Elk which is about as big as I'll ever hunt. My reasoning is that 1) I shoot them better, 2) they are lighter to pack around and 3) recoil much less. Every one of my AR rifles will shoot as accurately as my Weatherby bolt gun and considerably better than the lever gun. And that BCM upper that was suggested is in the upper part of the mid-level tier, at least and I'd probably put it in the upper tier myself. Just depends on what brands you decide to put in there.
 
On using semi-automatic rifles for big game hunting, one has to consider where one hunts. I started deer hunting in Penna. and at that time (and I still believe) it is not lawful to hunt big game with semi-auto. I also have hunted internationally and will again in the future. Country destination is another consideration on semi-auto use.
 
Pennsylvania in some counties will not allow rifle, shotgun only. I don't think they disallow semiautomatic as much as there are mag limits. You can get 5 round hunting mags for AR rifles. I agree the 300 BLK is a poor hunting round. The best AR15 for hunting is a 6.8, without question. Behind that is 6.5 Grendel and then the standard 5.56 / .223. 300 BO is good for less than 100 yards. Anything more than that and you really better be a marksman and know you're ballistics.

For your money, especially at this time of year, I'd buy palmetto state armory. You can have a brand new gun for less than you are looking at or same price but a better outfitted rifle.
 
The best AR15 for (my type of hunting) is a 6.8, without question. Behind that is 6.5 Grendel and then the standard 5.56 / .223. 300 BO is good for less than 100 yards.

Fixed that for ya.

The best hunting round is always dependent on the situation. Type of game, terrain, weather conditions and distance.
 
Tony, how dare you say that a .223 is big enough for deer! Just kidding, my first few deer I used my .223. It worked just fine! Never lost a wounded deer with it. They seem to go down just as quickly as when shot with larger calibers.
 
Perhaps Tony, but the 6.8 covers the most situations the best. In what situation is any of the other rounds the better round?
 
This started out as a conversation about the effectiveness of a round for hunting so in my opinion the grendel would be the better choice. Just as much energy. In fact according to hornady it runs about 200 to 300 lbs more energy with their factory loads. Higher BC bullets fly better and farther. Past 300 yards it really starts kicking the elephant dung out of the 6.8. I will give you that it is impressive that the 6.8 has the performance it does out of a 16 in barrel. And might be my choice in other situations but for hunting grendel is king of the AR calibers (that are being commercial loaded) for now.
 
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