Deputies Investigate Shooting At CWP Class

John Canuck · Feb 20, 2012

http://www.wyff4.com/r/30491738/detail.html

It's a good thing SC has mandatory traing requirements before one is allowed to carry a gun. Otherwise, someone could get negligently shot...

According to deputies, around 4:30 p.m Saturday during a live fire portion of the class a student was being shown the proper way to hold her pistol, when the gun fired striking the student standing next to her in the firing in line.

It sounds like he was showing the student the wrong way to hold a pistol.

The class was being taught by an off-duty Spartanburg County Deputy, who is a certified to teach the classes by South Carolina Law Enforcement Division

:shock:

RyanEOD · Feb 20, 2012

Because the shooting took place during a concealed weapons permit class certified by SLED, the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office will forward the investigation results to SLED for review.

Please tell me they will think long and hard before giving this person a CWP. . . .

John Canuck · Feb 20, 2012

RyanEOD said:
Because the shooting took place during a concealed weapons permit class certified by SLED, the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office will forward the investigation results to SLED for review.

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Please tell me they will think long and hard before giving this person a CWP. . . .

Why? The instructor was the one doing the demonstration.

RyanEOD · Feb 20, 2012

John Canuck said:
Why? The instructor was the one doing the demonstration.

I guess the believer in me makes me think the instructor was showing the right way and one of the students wasn't following the instructions. I know in my CWP class, they were very aware of safety at all times, but still if someone wasn't following instructions I could have been shot, and would have been pissed!

John Canuck · Feb 20, 2012

RyanEOD said:
John Canuck said:

Why? The instructor was the one doing the demonstration.

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I guess the believer in me makes me think the instructor was showing the right way and one of the students wasn't following the instructions. I know in my CWP class, they were very aware of safety at all times, but still if someone wasn't following instructions I could have been shot, and would have been pissed!

How pissed would you be when shot by the instructor?

A woman in class to earn her concealed weapons permit was accidentally shot by a Spartanburg County Deputy teaching the course.

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2012/feb/18/a ... vi-120313/

RyanEOD · Feb 20, 2012

John Canuck said:
How pissed would you be when shot by the instructor?

Holy crap, I thought it was another student that shot them . . . . WOW. Yeah, I would have been really pissed. She better get the class fee waived.

Bob Ouellette · Feb 20, 2012

He was "unaware that a round had been chambered." Sounds like someone didn't follow the basic firearm safety.

Dave29461 · Feb 20, 2012

Oh for video surveillance footage. All classes should be video taped. All guns should be pointed downrange. Without further info we don't know how or who needs to be re/trained. The only people who know for sure are the student and the instructor. Let's hope they do the right thing. Hope they had great ins.

Sniper1Moore · Feb 20, 2012

The instructor was showing one student how to hold the gun and shot another student through the arm and into her torso with a .22 pistol.I think the instructor should be stripped of his right to teach a class and remain a police officer till he recieves further (Much needed Training in the safe handling of firearms).Ken

russell97ta · Feb 20, 2012

Sniper1Moore said:
The instructor was showing one student how to hold the gun and shot another student through the arm and into her torso with a .22 pistol.I think the instructor should be stripped of his right to teach a class and remain a police officer till he recieves further (Much needed Training in the safe handling of firearms).Ken

I'd be very surprised if he isn't stripped of his SLED Certification.

Tigerstripe · Feb 20, 2012

what about the greed factor? i think the news said there were more than 50 students on the firing line.
thats asking for an accident. should there be a limit?

i know that would be big brother sticking his nose in, but for safteys sake?

John Canuck · Feb 20, 2012

RyanEOD said:
John Canuck said:

How pissed would you be when shot by the instructor?

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Holy crap, I thought it was another student that shot them . . . . WOW. Yeah, I would have been really pissed. She better get the class fee waived.

I was thinking more like I hope she gets a good lawyer. It's interesting how this was described as an "accident" rather than a negligent discharge, which we all know it was.

It looks like the poor lady that got shot was the wife of another deputy.

The wife of a Spartanburg County sheriff's deputy was shot Saturday during a concealed weapons permit class instructed by another deputy.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/201202 ... /120219701

Dave29461 · Feb 20, 2012

He shot his Wife? Life is going to be very hard for him on all fronts.

John Canuck · Feb 20, 2012

Dave29461 said:
He shot his Wife? Life is going to be very hard for him on all fronts.

No he didn't.

Dave29461 · Feb 20, 2012

John Canuck said:
Dave29461 said:

He shot his Wife? Life is going to be very hard for him on all fronts.

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No he didn't.

I'm sorry. I saw Skip Smith, the instructor, shot Crystal Smith, a deputies wife, and jumped to the conclusion it was his wife.

SmokinTurkey · Feb 21, 2012

Interesting enough I work with the sister of the lady who was shot. The news is reporting the instructor was showing the student the proper way to hold the pistol, but the lady that was shot said he was trying to help her with a jammed pistol. I wasn't present but I'm curious what actually happened. :?:

Gamer · Feb 21, 2012

Hopefully she will fully recover. I always hate to hear about mishaps with firearms, especially now considering the good I believe was happening in Spartanburg County. However, it does sound like a cardinal rule of firearms saftey was broken.

Enjay · Feb 22, 2012

I hope that he has really good insurance, for both of their sakes.

ReefShark · Feb 22, 2012

@ Enjay...Isn't that the truth...

John Canuck · Feb 26, 2012

Investigation over. I hear they had Inspector Clouseau help out. The conclusion:

Deputies said an investigation showed that the student's weapon was not put in a safe condition prior to the instructor helping the student with the proper grip of the weapon.

http://www.wyff4.com/r/30491738/detail.html

I recall the first question on the test being something about all guns are loaded, not to point it at anything you don't want to shoot and keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. :?